Story 1 is light and fun to read. The couple give consent to each other. There's no character to hate. Which is very contradictory to the second story. This one actually really pissed me off. The uke is attacked and raped by the seme. The seme then abducts the uke's twin who is protective of the uke since he's jealous. Then, he restrains him and rapes him with the uke. The twin brother passes out after being raped and the uke and seme live happily ever after. The twin bro who was raped was never mentioned or shown again after he was kidnapped and violated. Like wtf is wrong with this author hahaha I actually wanted the twin bro to exact his revenge against those who violated him. The third story. I'd say the uke was threatened at first. The dentist tells him that it will be dangerous if he struggles since there are many sharp objects around them. In other words, don't refuse him or else you'd be in pain. I laughed when the dentist used the mouth mirror in the uke's anus. I hope he doesn't use it in nis next patients' mouth. Hahaha Last chapter is pure smut. No plot.
The second story straight goes to my "never read again" list.. Both the seme and uke in that story is pathetic arseholes.. first of all, the presence of glasses-short haired twin is unnecessary in the whole plot if he's just forgotten after the "rape", no appearance, not even mentioned once after that, as if he never existed at all.. it seems like the mangaka drew the genius &better bro character and made him get raped by his own twin bro just to entertain a targeted certain group of readers (into incest, bdsm, rape ferish) without thinking much how he fits the story.. the story remains the exact same even if those rape scenes are removed, which is big fail from the mangaka.. the mangaka even makes a vain attempt to make the "rape" as "seemingly-consensual" by having the bro say, "Please put it in" when he clearly cried to the shitty di*khead bro to stop earlier.. That despicable bro first goes by "I just wanted to get closer to aniki", then "he's not my aniki" and tortured and raped him.. The as*hat seme first manipulate him to rape his bro, says, "Akio chan also wanna taste yuki too" ,,, then the next chapter says, "don't let anyone touch you"... Such hypocrite fu*kers..
I read stories with rape, bdsm, incest in Mangago in which these things are not mere plot devices or entertainment tools rather play vital role in the actual plotline...
So many comments making assumptions that Akio is an unwilling participant in the situation. Yet, the reader has no idea what transpired between Natsu and Akio between the school and Natsu's home. Akio could have been abducted or he also could have conspired with Natsu to help Yuki free himself of an imagined rivalry that was obviously detrimental to Yuki if it was causing him to steal answers before a test and potentially get himself expelled. The latter scenario seems far more believable since, at no time, did Akio show signs of anger, revulsion or even an attempt to struggle. In fact, he asks Yuki to, "Please put it in." It is the prevailing opinion that if a person is restrained and has pain inflicted upon them while engaged in sex, the act is automatically "rape". This biased view precludes the option of BDSM games. If many readers here witnessed the way in which I, and many of my friends, engage in sex, they would assume that we are being brutally "raped" and abused each and every time we have sex. Nothing, however, could be further from the truth, since we actively and consensually engage in BDSM games regularly. This is how we have sex. Thirty years ago, homosexuality; bisexuality; transgenderism were all viewed with the same distaste and revulsion that is expressed by readers here for situations they only assume are "rape". People "knew" these sexual preferences to be aberrations, disgusting and immoral. Imagine what we will "know" tomorrow.
This manga is erotic fiction. It is not a young adult novel or fairy tale. It is meant to arouse as much as it is meant to entertain. Thus, conflicts will not be resolved through typical, logical means. They will be resolved through sex. Sex is the entire point and purpose to erotic fiction, more so to explicit, or smut, erotic fiction. Why else would readers laugh at the idea of "yaoi logic"? It is a dismissal of the illogical means by which stories in this genre are propelled. The inability to recognize "yaoi logic" or the inability to separate fiction from reality is an indicator that the reader is ill-prepared for the concepts, themes and situations offered in the adult realm of erotic fiction and pornography. More time and thus, life experiences are required to prepare such readers.
"the reader has no idea what transpired between Natsu and Akio between the school and Natsu's home. Akio could have been abducted or he also could have conspired with Natsu to help Yuki free himself of an imagined rivalry that was obviously detrimental to Yuki"...
Hats off to your imagination levelლ(´ڡ`ლ) ╮(￣▽￣)╭ ┗( T﹏T )┛
"the reader has no idea what transpired between Natsu and Akio between the school and Natsu's home. Akio could have been abducted or he also could have conspired with Natsu to help Yuki free himself of an imagi... Hug Me (๑˃ᴗ˂)
My very first memories were of observing people and asking myself, "Why do they do that?" So, it seemed only logical that in high school I began taking AP psychology classes. I continued into college and began focusing on sexual psychology because it fascinated me the most. I have interviewed tens of thousands of people for close to 1000 different essays, clinical experiments and papers in the last 35 years (both my own and those of others). My imagination is drawn from experiences, both personal and second hand from interviewees. You might be surprised at how often fact is much stranger than fiction.
Your could have beens are fine, but as long as the author didn't mention or didn't show it, it'd remain as an assumption. In the first place, if Akio was willing, Natsu wouldn't have to abduct him. Moreover, he wouldn't need to restrain him either. Your idea of bdsm is a bit confusing. Bdsm involves great trust to your partner. In the story, we saw the aniki telling the younger bro to stay away from the good for nothing Natsu. It means he generally knew that the guy was nothing but trouble. No, where's the trust there? This is not being biased but we all know that what happened is rape. Stop justifying rape. For goodness' sake. Yes, this manga is erotic fiction, but not all work like that contains dubcon. And not accepting ideas doesn't mean readers are not ready or ill-prepared for the concepts as you mentioned. It's just some of us find things such as rape repulsive unlike some people who enjoy it. Oops.
The story of the twins is truly repugnant. I haven't despised a protagonist as much as I did the long haired twin; also, after doing such a traumatic despicable thing to the brother, he just disappeared from the story and wasn't mentioned ever again. No sense of guilt or anything, the issue wasn't addressed as if it wasn't a big deal; big fail from the Mangaka in my opinion...despicable, truly despicable.
The last story left me unconscious! seriously, that was just too hot!
Dang I hate the story of the twins. I hate the long hair twin. He is such an asshole and a loser. Just because he couldn't be like his short hair twin brother doesn't mean it is his brother fault. Why the hell does he have to do those things to his brother. Gosh I fucking hate him. I wish there is a plot twist where the short hair brother is the one who actually end up with the guy instead of the fucking long hair twins. And I wish the short hair twins take his revenge cuz they just goes too far by raping him who did not do anything wrong to them. (︶︿︶)＝凸 (╬￣皿￣)凸(╯°Д °)╯╧╧
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Story 1 is light and fun to read. The couple give consent to each other. There's no character to hate.
Which is very contradictory to the second story. This one actually really pissed me off. The uke is attacked and raped by the seme. The seme then abducts the uke's twin who is protective of the uke since he's jealous. Then, he restrains him and rapes him with the uke. The twin brother passes out after being raped and the uke and seme live happily ever after.
The twin bro who was raped was never mentioned or shown again after he was kidnapped and violated. Like wtf is wrong with this author hahaha I actually wanted the twin bro to exact his revenge against those who violated him.
The third story. I'd say the uke was threatened at first. The dentist tells him that it will be dangerous if he struggles since there are many sharp objects around them. In other words, don't refuse him or else you'd be in pain. I laughed when the dentist used the mouth mirror in the uke's anus. I hope he doesn't use it in nis next patients' mouth. Hahaha
Last chapter is pure smut. No plot.
The second story straight goes to my "never read again" list..
Both the seme and uke in that story is pathetic arseholes.. first of all, the presence of glasses-short haired twin is unnecessary in the whole plot if he's just forgotten after the "rape", no appearance, not even mentioned once after that, as if he never existed at all..
it seems like the mangaka drew the genius &better bro character and made him get raped by his own twin bro just to entertain a targeted certain group of readers (into incest, bdsm, rape ferish) without thinking much how he fits the story.. the story remains the exact same even if those rape scenes are removed, which is big fail from the mangaka.. the mangaka even makes a vain attempt to make the "rape" as "seemingly-consensual" by having the bro say, "Please put it in" when he clearly cried to the shitty di*khead bro to stop earlier..
That despicable bro first goes by "I just wanted to get closer to aniki", then "he's not my aniki" and tortured and raped him.. The as*hat seme first manipulate him to rape his bro, says, "Akio chan also wanna taste yuki too" ,,, then the next chapter says, "don't let anyone touch you"... Such hypocrite fu*kers..
I read stories with rape, bdsm, incest in Mangago in which these things are not mere plot devices or entertainment tools rather play vital role in the actual plotline...
So many comments making assumptions that Akio is an unwilling participant in the situation. Yet, the reader has no idea what transpired between Natsu and Akio between the school and Natsu's home. Akio could have been abducted or he also could have conspired with Natsu to help Yuki free himself of an imagined rivalry that was obviously detrimental to Yuki if it was causing him to steal answers before a test and potentially get himself expelled. The latter scenario seems far more believable since, at no time, did Akio show signs of anger, revulsion or even an attempt to struggle. In fact, he asks Yuki to, "Please put it in." It is the prevailing opinion that if a person is restrained and has pain inflicted upon them while engaged in sex, the act is automatically "rape". This biased view precludes the option of BDSM games. If many readers here witnessed the way in which I, and many of my friends, engage in sex, they would assume that we are being brutally "raped" and abused each and every time we have sex. Nothing, however, could be further from the truth, since we actively and consensually engage in BDSM games regularly. This is how we have sex. Thirty years ago, homosexuality; bisexuality; transgenderism were all viewed with the same distaste and revulsion that is expressed by readers here for situations they only assume are "rape". People "knew" these sexual preferences to be aberrations, disgusting and immoral. Imagine what we will "know" tomorrow.
This manga is erotic fiction. It is not a young adult novel or fairy tale. It is meant to arouse as much as it is meant to entertain. Thus, conflicts will not be resolved through typical, logical means. They will be resolved through sex. Sex is the entire point and purpose to erotic fiction, more so to explicit, or smut, erotic fiction. Why else would readers laugh at the idea of "yaoi logic"? It is a dismissal of the illogical means by which stories in this genre are propelled. The inability to recognize "yaoi logic" or the inability to separate fiction from reality is an indicator that the reader is ill-prepared for the concepts, themes and situations offered in the adult realm of erotic fiction and pornography. More time and thus, life experiences are required to prepare such readers.
"the reader has no idea what transpired between Natsu and Akio between the school and Natsu's home. Akio could have been abducted or he also could have conspired with Natsu to help Yuki free himself of an imagined rivalry that was obviously detrimental to Yuki"...
Hats off to your imagination levelლ(´ڡ`ლ)
╮(￣▽￣)╭ ┗( T﹏T )┛
My very first memories were of observing people and asking myself, "Why do they do that?" So, it seemed only logical that in high school I began taking AP psychology classes. I continued into college and began focusing on sexual psychology because it fascinated me the most. I have interviewed tens of thousands of people for close to 1000 different essays, clinical experiments and papers in the last 35 years (both my own and those of others). My imagination is drawn from experiences, both personal and second hand from interviewees. You might be surprised at how often fact is much stranger than fiction.
I like your argument, and I think I would have enjoyed the story more if it didn't come across as kinda depressing.
Your could have beens are fine, but as long as the author didn't mention or didn't show it, it'd remain as an assumption. In the first place, if Akio was willing, Natsu wouldn't have to abduct him. Moreover, he wouldn't need to restrain him either. Your idea of bdsm is a bit confusing. Bdsm involves great trust to your partner. In the story, we saw the aniki telling the younger bro to stay away from the good for nothing Natsu. It means he generally knew that the guy was nothing but trouble. No, where's the trust there? This is not being biased but we all know that what happened is rape. Stop justifying rape. For goodness' sake.
Yes, this manga is erotic fiction, but not all work like that contains dubcon. And not accepting ideas doesn't mean readers are not ready or ill-prepared for the concepts as you mentioned. It's just some of us find things such as rape repulsive unlike some people who enjoy it. Oops.
I hate the brothers story.hope the other twin find someone that loves him and take revenge on the other brother.
i love when uke is in pain
The story of the twins is truly repugnant. I haven't despised a protagonist as much as I did the long haired twin; also, after doing such a traumatic despicable thing to the brother, he just disappeared from the story and wasn't mentioned ever again. No sense of guilt or anything, the issue wasn't addressed as if it wasn't a big deal; big fail from the Mangaka in my opinion...despicable, truly despicable.
The last story left me unconscious! seriously, that was just too hot!
Dang I hate the story of the twins. I hate the long hair twin. He is such an asshole and a loser. Just because he couldn't be like his short hair twin brother doesn't mean it is his brother fault. Why the hell does he have to do those things to his brother. Gosh I fucking hate him. I wish there is a plot twist where the short hair brother is the one who actually end up with the guy instead of the fucking long hair twins. And I wish the short hair twins take his revenge cuz they just goes too far by raping him who did not do anything wrong to them. (︶︿︶)＝凸 (╬￣皿￣)凸(╯°Д °)╯╧╧
in the last chapter..i think i ran out of blood due to massive nosebleed..
dang! that was too intense...
anyway, the twin story... my heart reach out for the genius twin..i feel so sorry for what they did to him..
Nosebleed......
Both the uke and seme are pathetic. So tying up and banging your twin will somehow solve ur self esteem issues huh?Σ( ￣□￣||)
meh ...