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PSA: Fujos saying "It's just fiction" and other assorted statements in regards to BL is problematic.
Here's the thing, no one is denying that it's fictional. Let's get that out of the way right now. Unless that shit says "based on a true story" on the front, there's no reason to assume otherwise.
But the issue is that we have a bunch of straight girls deciding that a medium depicting gay people isn't affecting anyone. Because apparently they're the authority on the matter, and not the people depicted in said mediums.
When you say "it's just fiction, it doesn't affect reality", you don't get to make that claim that for everyone. The most you can say is it's not affecting YOUR reality, because it's literally not. At all. Which I'm more than happy for you that it's not, I really truly am. I and every other lgbt person on this site would love to say the same, believe me.
But you don't get to decide for a completely different demographic of people what does and doesn't have real-life consequences for them. That is not your place, not your call to make.
If you wanna make that claim about shoujo, or if you wanna make that claim about hentai, then by all means make that claim. Tell us your grievances and if people have any shred of decency they'll listen and try to be part of the solution. But ya'll don't do that for us, and you really need to start.
By no means am I saying you shouldn't read yaoi. But what I am saying is that ya'll need to stop trying to justify the problems when we present them to you, or claim that they aren't actually problems at all, or that we're just blowing things out of proportion, or that "yaoi is for straight people anyways". You've been shutting people down every damn time for YEARS and it cannot continue any longer.
I'm sorry wtf????? You're acting as if they were writing about actual people. You are talking as if they are agreeing to what is being depicted in those fictional works and wouldn't mind it being done IRL. People in the lgbt community are not an entirely different species. You are acting as if it is only in yaoi that they depict; non-con, dub-con, ...... 5 reply
I'm seeing far too many offended straight women in these replies proving your point (and kudos to the many straight people that actually bothered reading this rather than taking it as a personal attack because it really isn't? You do know we more allies, right? So listen and reflect rather than get defensive for a problem you will never experience)...... 10 reply
?? Pardon me because i couldn't really get what your point was, but what are you talking about? Rape? And what are fujos saying "It's just fiction" to? Gay porn? Yaoi? Wdym?
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Sincerely,
A confused person.
Edit: Ok, here is my take on this whole situation.
1. Your second paragraph: "Because apparently they're the auth...... 4 reply
if fiction or mangas or films or computer games influence your reality then you have a completely different problem
"trying to justify the problems " if you see a problem there than it is in your head and you need help
if you you go by that logic than we need to ban all porn and all killing games and all films with violence and sex because you wi...... 3 reply
I read this carefully and all of the replies that complain that people aren't listening to what you're saying but really, what ARE you saying? What is it you want?
"By no means am I saying you shouldn't read yaoi."
Well, that's good because you don't get to tell anyone what they can and can't read.
"But what I am saying is that ya'll need to st...... 8 reply
Most of us acknowledge the fact that there are some people that don't differentiate between reality and fiction. But what solution do you put forward for this to stop happening? Those people will continue living their lives as they see fit regardless of what you have to say for the matter. What would you do to stop these people from fetishizing lgb...... 6 reply
So you're saying we can read it, but if we DO read it, we have to sit there and listen to your insipid preaching about how "offensive" it is. Then, if we do anything besides nod our heads and agree with your whinging, we're "problematic?" Do you not understand that's textbook shaming behavior?
If you don't like yaoi, don't read it. If you don't l...... 4 reply
Dude, seeing all the comments kinda annoy me, I rly just want to read some yaoi and end it there. I like reading gay relationships, if you don’t like me, you don’t like me. I don’t care. I don’t go out of my way to point out gay couples, I ain’t that shallow. I don’t like seeing this hate, I really just want to curl up and read some tea...... 2 reply
Thank you. "It's just fiction" is not and has never been a legitimate argument. You can't pretend that fictional works don't influence or reflect lived realities.
Take Uncle Tom's Cabin, a work of anti-slavery fiction that had a significant effect on popular sentiments regarding black people and slavery in the U.S. If that book hadn't been publish...... 6 reply
I've never assumed that yaoi was in any way intended to be representative of the gay community or trying to depict realistic gay relationships. That's because, knowing where yaoi came from, expecting it to be representative seems, hmm, shall we say, wildly unrealistic? It's always stuck out like a sore thumb to me that most yaoi is simply straight ...... 2 reply
