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I have a question concerning ukes in mangas.
I have been lurking this site for quite some time and i have seen people being bothered by a few things when it comes to yaoi mangas. Here's what it really bothers me:
Why is it that in the majority of mangas is it somehow a norm and ok to show the uke having sex with other people but not the seme?
I have read lots of mangas and i have encountered this i don't know how many times and it really pisses me off. When it comes to sex the manga artists don't really have a problem with depicting the uke being sexually active, having sex or enjoying sex with other people , but when it comes to the seme we are always told that he was a playboy or had sexual experience but very few artists actually show the seme having sex with other people beside the uke.
I wonder why is that? Does anyone know because i have dropped so many mangas because of this stupid attitude. Either show both of them having sex with other people or no one at all. This double standard is making me crazy.
I don't mind if the seme or the uke had previous experience or relationships but when i am introduced to them in the manga it ruins my mood so much when i have to see one of them, predominately , having and enjoying sex with other people. How am i supposed to believe that then they have feelings for the partner? For me it cheapens the relationship so much and i can't root for the couple any more.
Does anyone knows why the manga artist do that? I'm really curious about it...
Sometimes I think the mangakas are trying to lean towards a certain audience and it just so happens that a lot of their readers seem to like that kind of plot...? I'm not entirely sure myself reply
I don't like it too. Since I'm top (IRL) I usually empathize with the seme and the double standards angers me. I sometimes wanted to scream unfair to the posters who even glorify the uke and treats like he's some kind of badass and crucify the seme when he is the one do did the same thing. Like, WTF. 1 reply
I think it's the threat perspective actually. A uke often takes a more female personality, with a more empathetic connection with everyone around them. So the lover to friend transferrance can come through without placing doubt on the genuine feelings of the character. But with a seme it's a little more difficult. Often how they relate to the worl...... 1 reply
Because is like in the real life, some men would like to see their girlfriend with another girl, but not with another man. Some times that is reflexed in yaois too, the uke take the rol of the girl, because that, is ok if they are making sex with another uke. Something like this I guess xD reply
I have a theory about that. It all has to do with perspective. Primarily, most manga is told from the point of view of the uke. Their emotions, the things they do, even how they see things; those things filter what the reader experiences in context of the story.
So using that idea of perspective, I think it make more sense seeing the uke having...... reply
It's hard to answer why manga artists make characters that do these simply based on the idea of the character sleeping with other people. The reason can be very different based on the circumstances the artists put these characters in and on what light they show them. They can range from just for the sake of throwing in a conflict in the story to re...... reply
As someone else said it has to do with the female fantasy of the perfect boyfriend.
The uke, meaning the female role can be flawed, slutty, sleep with multiple people in the manga and the female audience is pretty much ok with that. It's something that doesn't hurt them because they identify with the uke. On the other hand the seme, meaning the m...... 1 reply
(It will be a big ramble on my initial thoughts on the matter, shit storm, brace yourself)
Well, I agree with what most of the people said. Yaoi is originally derived from shoujo magazines, so ukes are like an "evoluted female", while semes inherit the prince-like characteristic that women (the main target of BL magazines) wish to see in an ideal ...... reply
The seme is nearly always depicted with this kind of 'perfect boyfriend' image; he only has eyes for his beloved uke, he can't do it with anyone else because he's so madly in love with the uke, whether the uke is unfaithful or not (makes him more attractive in the readers' eyes)
Yaoi/shounen ai manga is directed at a female audience. Usually the uk...... reply
I haven't really seen many uke's having sex with others. It happens on occasion but even then they aren't in a committed relationship or just part of a sex friend agreement. They aren't obliged to be faithful to anyone. Relationships don't fit into a "one size fits all" explanation.
Traditionally, women are portrayed to being adverse to that but ...... reply