so I gotta be honest my dark kpop past made me unsure if I should read this because like I have war flashbacks when I see kpop gay fanfics and I end up feeling extremely guilty gaah
My own guilt aside there's a stinky ass rapey scene on chap 11, which they argue over and it is shown as shitty but imo not enough. Like NO MEANS NO BRUH T F.
Also there's a forceful BJ on chap 21 that wasn't a 10/10 consent but eeeh it was reeeally hot and reminded me of my hoe hetero days hahahaha *hides in shame*
ok there's some weird manipulating around at the beginning and thinly veiled excuses for sexy stuff.. but the author is apparently a pro at like making it blurry enough that you can't say if it's really grooming or coersion or if it's just a bunch of weird circumstances. So... I guess props to her? XD Also the couple gets cute and has actual gay problems which is nice ngl
I need to clarify that this webtoon is in the list not because of rape or assault by any of the main characters, but an event that happens around ch.15. (in 1st season)
TRIGGER WARNING and SPOILERS
a bunch of dudes fantasize about gang raping the bottom and meticulously plan it, until their plan goes to shit and they get beaten up. I mean it's pretty cartoonish, but somehow it was really upsetting to read. The author drew it as a fantasy even though it didn't actually happen but
light hearted read with some dubious consent (welp the bottom is pretty unconscious at the beginning) but I love myself a femme top and that macho bottom is *chefs kiss*
GET THAT D YOU CUTIEEEEEEE
uuuuh oke so... sexy bottom boi get tied up to bed clumsy top boii try to force himself and sexy bottom boi says pls fuck me harder?????????
I'm guessing he meant it because he was already horny for him and he wasn't trying to reverse psychology that bitch (cause if that was the plan oh boy did it not work >__> ) then again this webtoon goes full psycho, like the main couple are the least psycho we gotta work with and they are both a bit crazy in the coconut
uuuuh maybe?????
Idk?????????
What is life anyway????????
Is this what the ripple effect of omegaverse is doing to yaoi?????
Also I don't get it if it's called eating but no one is being eaten literally then is it fucking or not????
second chapter of the second story uke gives seme a surprise handy
seme even comments later that if he didn't like him back (which the uke though he didn't) that doing that normally is sexual harassment, so at least they are not completely out of touch with reality lol
(also first couple took a kinky turn real fast towards the end it was quite hot I recommend)
ok so no funny funnies for this one
this is like SUPER TRIGGERING for those who don't like rape, noncon dubcon etc
Not only is there dubcon and sekuhara behavior, but there's plenty of rape and sex trafficking rape included. So, even without the romanticised seku hara and rape, read at your own risk. Mixed feelings...
so this is a bit light and I guess it isn't exactly romantisation but at this point this list is an umbrella term for all things shittily rapey so I thought I'd add it for
SPOILERS
-> drugging someone to get to bed with them (no sex happened tho)
-> legit attempted gang rape
-> victim-blaming
I'm mostly including it for the drugging and the victim blaming, so take from this what ya will. This mangaka is known for writing angsty shit so I guess that's my warning to y'all. Uke is cute tho..
if I repackaged this into a fairytale it would be:
Fuckboi-kun with a biting fetish discovers the magic of *c~o~n~s~e~n~t*
there's like... a shitton of rapey dubious consent shit going on. Also apart from the biting fetish plot is basic a f and includes the following tropes:
1) he an abusive fuckboi but my love can fix him
2) STRAIGHT TILL THE ONE GAY EXCEPTION
3) possessive = tru lub
this mangaka was clearly a connoisseur of the classic tropes lmao
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i think ur so real for this list
lol I'll take that as the highest of compliments
Thank you for doing the saint work this list is just exactly what i needed
Is this an anti or pro r*pe list? If it is an anti list. I’ll follow because I feel the exact same. It’s so annoying watching SA get romanticized over and over. As a trauma victim it makes it so difficult to enjoy stories without getting upset or flashbacks etc. when there’s no warning especially. Makes me feel all sick
both. I am not trying to shame anyone's preferences, as I wrote in the description for part 1, some people are into most of these titles and some need to avoid them like the plague, I think both are valid. Personally, many titles on the list I really like and many I find very inadequately written and retraumatizing. I'm a survivor myself so I know how delicate of a line it is to walk when reading stuff like this.
Tysm!!
wait I just read the sentence again and I'd just like to state that hopefully there is no such thing as a "pro-rape" list anywhere ever and when I said both I meant that I do not shame these manga for existing, but neither do I advocate for them by default.
Manga that get rapey or have weirdly dubious consent are not the same as someone advocating actual real life rape, just like how violent gangster films do not advocate for organized crime violence. We are all social bi-products and we tend to fantasize or imagine scenarios that irl would be unhealthy or traumatic. If I criticize the manga in this list it's not because I'd think they are "pro-rape" (and I'd like to think that would be an absurd stance to have) it's because the story and (dubious) smut is not well executed, either from a moral or a skill standpoint.
Think of manga and smutty novels that have non consensual scenarios as people roleplaying a kinky scene but without the extra layer of them sitting down and discussing safewords, likes and boundaries, because there are no real people involved who could be hurt (well, except the readers if the manga is bad lol)
Did I miss something in Oni to Tengoku? I thought the student/minor & the dude confirmed nothing happened between them??
(genuinely asking, I read sometimes all night when I can't sleep & its very likely I miss stuff/skim by/ or just straight up forget)
veeeery vaguely remember that it was indeed confirmed that they did get involved sexually just that it wasn't "a big deal" because it wasn't serious lol. But it's been a while since I read it so am not a 100% sure and it's not enough of a good time to go back and confirm lol ngl
It's been so long since I've read it. I had thought he was basically teaching sex ed for the queer kid haha. I might go back and read (heavy on the MIGHT). There was hella problematic shit like you mentioned, I just didn't remember him getting with the minor. Big Yikes if so on my part. But thanks for the in-depth (and at times funny) list needless to say! :3
*shrug* it is what it is! That story was weird because it was kinda well told writing skill wise, but as a story it was a bizarre clusterfuck so the skill went down the drain. Pls do let me know if u do and I need to make corrections!
And ty! ^^
i like manipulatize toxic shit.. AND YOU GAVE MANIPULATIVE TOXIC SHIT< THANK YOU GURL
Your comments are so funny lmaooo this is the list I've been looking for
LMFAO love these descriptions !!
anyone else reading Jinx hearing the psycho doctor telling a clearly poor looking kid that his grandmas cancer treatment would cost 10k per month be like sorry grandma u've lived a long life guess you'll die ╮( ̄▽ ̄)╭
why is this guy putting his magical mutthole on the front lines for his grandma she looks 95 bruh also is he straight I don't get it, also why am I still reading Jinx am I just into hate reading things in shock now????
I’m reading Jinx rn as well lol
I was shocked because I didn’t expect what happened from the author of bj Alex
i feel like the signs were there all along we were just willfully ignoring them ╥﹏╥
I miss Sunoo ><
Is “put a smile on” on here it should be
whenever people recommend stuff for this list I need to mentally prepare myself before reading it lol
ugh I read it... and uuuh those are 20 minutes I'll never take back >_>
I love this list so much even though I hate rape scenes in yaoi just because of your comments goddamn
wooohooohooo that's a big compliment good to hear!