Yeah, and Elle is her only motivation at this point and no way in hell was she going to be able to take him in the divorce when he's their only child.
Yessssssss
Its great ML is owning up and trying to do different because he feels like he could have done something
But he was also obviously being HEAVILY MONITORED, spies were placed EVERYWHERE like there's no way he would have been able to tell her the truth especially with his lack of experience
I'm glad he's trying to make up for his guilt because theyre definitely things he probably could have done but ML is definitely not the one we should be hating on
The dad is literally the problem, LIKE LITERALLY THE CAUSE OF EVERYTHING??? Like do people realize if the dad was out of the picture the first go round the duke would have tried to be more affectionate and at least be around her more??? Its kinds sad that they would have been happy of the dad wasn't an ass with power
I believe that when people say she could have divorced, they blame the author not the FL.
And like others comments said, the ML had other options. He lived together with FL, finding one single moment where he could explain her what's happening from his pov was NOT impossible, and would have changed everything for her. In the flashbacks he regrets only at the end, we didn't see him hesitate to sacrifice his wife and son for power (because that's the only reason he wanted to get along with the father). He didn't care about the consequence for them. If he couldn't give her love, he could have shown respect, and he did neither. Sure he can get his redemption, but people are warming up to see how he does that.
@Hare:
"But he was also obviously being HEAVILY MONITORED, spies were placed EVERYWHERE like there's no way he would have been able to tell her the truth especially with his lack of experience"
Lol, Reina fired all the spies, he had the power to do something and just didn't. He said himself that he made the wrong choices, he gave in to the duke's threat and allowed everything that happened within his own home, his absolute domain.
From how I see it people are literally blaming the FL they didn’t go “why did the author” no they went “why doesn’t she just divorce? If she was suffering so much..”
Also I see where you’re coming from, but I’m sure he wasn’t able to since there are literally maids and shit that the father planted into the house so he wasn’t able to do anything about it. I heard from someone that he did fall in love with her in that green house but the father forced him to act like he hated her. Also he didn’t sacrifice his wife and son if he did he would’ve let them die when the father got mad at him. And he was only allowed to grieve for her cause he saw what he unconsciously put her through. while it’s nice that he’s trying to redeem himself the main one who should be redeeming himself is the father. People are pushing the blame solely onto the ML saying that he should’ve done something but how is he going to do anything when those in power who supported what he did kept dying? By the time the ML had a chance to do anything the ones supporting him weren’t there so he can’t do shit in that situation. I’m sure he felt helpless as fuck.
I mean,,,if he didnt treat his wife harshly
The fsther literally killed people that the ML knew
He kinda didnt have a choice in the marriage
He legit said "no" and the dad was like "did you mean yes? Btw i killed one of your guys"
Do you think you'd want to take the chance of losing all your power, the only thing keeping your wife and child safe currently, because you tried to tell her what's happening?
He didnt know who the spies were after all and it probably seemed too risky
I mean, would you risk telling her and possibility lose the power to protect them and lose multiple close subdornites or just not tell her at all. Both options at the time for him would have probably led to him feeling guilty in the end, og timeline ml had NO CHANCE, no mstter what he did he was probably only going to end up having a hsnd at ruining his wife anf kids life
He is inexpierenced after all
Its a tragedy from all angles, a meek lady and a threatened duke
I do think the duke isn't entirely clean but with this new information i don't find him as damnable yknow
We’re talking about the past as to what he fucked up on. While Reina did that, back then they were both just young adults who didn’t know any better. Plus they were both afraid of the father. But after living once and going back in time they’re trying to do things right. What other choice did he have when the lives of people and those he loved were at stake? Like I said in the spoiler area the father was married to a royal so he had a lot of people backing him up who does the ML have when they’re all dead?
@Hare:
"og timeline ml had NO CHANCE...He is inexpierenced"
So was Reina when she grew balls tbis timeline and just... fired all the staff. He could've just fired all the staff.
And what? let the father find out??? He literally had no way of doing it without the father finding out, and I’m 100% sure when the father finds out he’s going to do something about it. The Duke in the previous time line did have a had in hurting the FL but do you rlly think he could’ve fired all the staff and the father would just sit back and let it happen??? Especially when he threatened to kill his own daughter and grandson?? The Duke himself removing all the staff could lead to more people deaths if not his family’s
This whole reply was you asking me "do you really think he could've done what we've seen him do in the current timeline" and the answer is yes because i have seen it happen personally.
No he could not what are U not understanding?! He was inexperienced he was a kid do you realize that the him now isn’t sum person in their early twenties but a grown ass man pass the age of 40????? He was some random low ranking nobles son before he became a duke. He didn’t know any better but after living once he does
Obviously I'm not going to ask for spoilers
But isn't he doing the current timeline with an entire lifetime's worth of knowledge he previously lacked?
So is he just,,,,not going to use any of that?? And none of the experience helps him overcome his troubles now in anyway???
Just yes or no will work, dont need specifics of course but if he honestly doesn't then wow my boy DUM
What exactly is your argument Dafukanimu? "He could've been caught so he was right to do nothing"? ?? Maybe the fear of the father's threat should've taken a backseat to literally standing by and allowing him to invade your home and destroy your family. If the issue is that he surrounded her with spies, fire said spies and take back your home so she's safe at least there...
@Hare, the question isn't answered with yes or no.
He has memories, but it is his own power that he's always had that he's using to do things right this timeline. Unless you can point out some kind of future countermeasure he's taken so far. He's just been using his power as a duke. It's his own home. His issue the first timeline was that he stood by and did nothing with his power. His lifetime of memories helped him decide to use his power, somehow he didn't get the resolve up till she died and he was confined.
What exactly is your argument Dafukanimu? "He could've been caught so he was right to do nothing"? ?? Maybe the fear of the father's threat should've taken a backseat to literally standing by and allowing him to invade your home and destroy your family. If the issue is that he surrounded her with spies, fire said spies and take back your home so she's safe at least there...
My argument is that he was literally a young adult who didn’t know what the fuck he was doing and didn’t know how to deal with the situation. He should’ve thought more about what was happening but he was too frightened by the FL’s father to do shit about it. What do you want this kid to do? Stand up to the father and what? Let his colleagues and his family die? If you had the choice of firing people but it people close to u and your family dies vs not firing people and no one dies but u keep being monitored what happens? If he fired those people then the FL would’ve died along with his unborn son and then what would the reason be for firing them when there’s nothing there for him to protect? The father had rights to do the shit he did cause this was back then and the parents had full authority especially with how people saw the FL they thought she was cursed so everyone thought it was appropriate that the father had a hand in their marriage.
"What do you want this kid to do? Stand up to the father and what? Let his colleagues and his family die?"
As opposed to standing aside and allowing the duke to invade his home with spies and his ex? Um, yes?
If the options are that his family is either unsafe everywhere or safe in his home, he should choose the latter, yes? Am i missing something here?
Also, you're framing things in a way that sounds like he thought the duke wasn't harming Reina because he was being submissive, but that isn't the case, he knew what was happening. He even said just now that he knew the ex was there to hurt Reina. Not sure where you got your interpretation.
Bro do you rlly think they’d be safe if the spies were gone??? There’s this thing called assassins that the father used to kill people up to this point, as soon as he fires them it’s all over. Why would u sacrifice your whole fucking family and people who trust you and their family for a couple of spies???? The FL didn’t know about the spies she just knew there were people who didn’t respect her
Yes he knew she was there to hurt her and he tried to keep her away from his ex, are we reading the same manwha hello??
FIRST OFF, why do some of yall not understand why she didn’t divorce him during that time? Why are u blaming her? This is literal victim blaming. Do you think in all her years of abuse that she’d be able to look her father in the eye and go “lol fuck you” she’s not some reincarnated person from the 20th century, she’s just a mentally abused kid who turned into a mentally ill lady. She literally cannot take care of herself due to her mental state and you wanted her to dip outta The house and for what? To die on the streets? That’s doing exactly what her father wanted her to do.
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Also why are you guys so mad at the ML for???? The father threatened to kill the baby and the FL along with a bunch of people the ML trusted and knew and those who supported him, AND he threatened to take away his status, without a status how is he going to keep Elle and the FL with him??? Plus when he was in his past life he had no clue on how to show love and affection due to how he was raised. The only reason why he’s being bold rn and is ignoring the dad is cause in his past life he was scared of that man and what he’d do to
people close to him if he didn’t listen to him. I’m pretty sure to him he was some devil in disguise pulling the strings and since he wasn’t experienced in being a Duke the dad had an advantage. We haven’t gotten pass this part just quite yet and the dad hasn’t made a move since he’s started treating his wife right. So he’s trying to do the shit he needs now as fast as possible before the dad takes notice. Just be patient and pay attention. Don’t blame either the FL or ML for something the father did. The father has a lot of social backing cause the FL’s mom used to be a royal so he can control their shit but I’m sure the the ML is trying to break both of them off from the dad.