Hi, I fell for your open-mindedness and your down to earth and on-point comments, pls go out with me?
Jkjk (￣ε(#￣)Σ That just seemed to fit in right there considering we both read yaoi that start out just like that I do enjoy reading your comments tho (⌒▽⌒)
Lol, thank you :^D I'm glad i see someone like-minded as well, there's too much virtue signalling starting up in that comments section... (￣∇￣")
You're welcome:D Ikr I almost got caught doing it myself had I not done a double take of the situation. Besides, having an open mind leads to a more healthy discussion in the comment section (๑•ㅂ•)و✧
I love all of your comments seriously! They shine a light in my mind, specially the ones about killing stalking (￣∇￣") you're amazing honestly and definitely my favorite person on here (づ￣ ³￣)づ
Oh thank you! :^D It's nice to meet you!
Ah right, hello! Nice to meet you ⁄(⁄ ⁄·⁄ω⁄·⁄ ⁄)⁄
Hiii idk what the hell is going on with love is an illusion lol I'm not about to go and read all the comments.. I just wanna say (I hate controversy btw) from what I did see, your stuff makes sense so hey wanna be friends ;) just didn't wanna write this in those comments because yo no comprehende¿
Sure man, no problem. Also, it's probably best you don't read them, the sheer lack of logic and the twisting of events is ridiculous... It feels like i'm screaming into the void... Like i'm arguing with radical feminists... They want to hate Dojin so bad that they just kinda rewrite the story to the convenience of their narrative. Nice to meet you though!
Yeah there needs to be more people who don't attack at the first chance they get.. i got you
I think using the word 'enjoying' was the trigger for the misunderstanding. Should've used the word 'consensual'. Because victims of rape could've been drugged and 'enjoyed' the sex even though there was no consent, as a side effect of being drugged.
You aren't understanding what i was saying either : / i was correcting the guy who said its still rape if you enjoy it because you can't enjoy rape, they should've said its still rape if you REACT to it. You can't enjoy rape... it's not possible. I mean, by definition, if you're being raped you don't want the sex so how can you enjoy it. They should've said react, not enjoy, which is what i was saying.
I hope that didn't come across as bitchy, i wasn't trying to be and i appreciate you calmly trying to tell me what you thought of the situation. It's nice to NOT be called a fucker.
You're wrong, I saw a rape victim confess with shame (normal because it is very difficult to confess this kind of thing when it was a rape, and I specify that I speak of the shame of feeling something like pleasure, not the fact of being raped, the one who must be ashamed is the culprit not the victim.) She had felt pleasure in spite of herself! So sadly no it is not impossible and that's the worst, we do not control that kind of thing. I think the victims do not admit it because it is unmentionable, they prefer to shut up and I will have done the same.
I actually know that it is possible for the physical stimulation to feel good, but i'm not wrong. That is the distinction i was trying to make in the conversation you responded to here, there is a difference between "enjoying" and "reacting to a physical stimulus". "enjoying" implies consent, that you WANTED what happened. By definition, you CAN'T "enjoy" rape as rape happens against your will. Sex that is "enjoyed" is sex, not rape. To "enjoy" is a positive emotion, it's something you want, it sounds like your friend just felt good, but didn't want the sex and it was a negative experience for them. Negative emotions, not positive. A rape victim who says they "enjoyed" the sex would just be using the wrong wording.
Chapter 39, page 25 is where you can look to read through the scene again.
https://www.mangago.me/read-manga/for_the_beautiful_juliet/uu/br_chapter-264087/pg-25/
People are arguing that when Genas says to her:
"How can I have a hidden child when I haven't slept with any other woman?"
He is saying he has never had sex with any other woman in his entire life, but what he's saying is that he has not had sex with any other woman within the timeframe that would allow his niece to be his daughter.
If you pay attention to the scene, the empress is mad that he had sex with a woman besides her *after* she "bought" him, because he's "hers". That would be *after* Enoch's mother had passed.
The empress very likely knows about Genas's relationship with Enoch's mother, since he cares so much for her son and it was already widely known that he leaves her bedroom in the mornings.
He's saying in that scene, "to have a child I would had to have had sex with someone else while I was with you, which is impossible".
Also, I want to point out that even entertaining that he were talking about "in his entire life", he said that after being cut by her... Why would I believe him telling the crazy bitch that rapes and abuses him all the time that he hasn't had sex with Enoch's mother when there was a whole scene showing that they had? Enoch literally has an awkward spotting of it happening, drops his book running away, and then asks Genas if he loves his mother, who says "what's the point of resisting?" because she's in a higher position and her insanity has fully consumed her into thinking Genas is her husband/treating him as her husband.
I also want to remind anyone it concerns that, initially, we had no reason to think their relationship progressed to sexual, that was a sad twist that was confirmed in the scene with Enoch as a child. The story is vague at first, it shows her starting to lose herself and hallucinate and at first it looks like he's just taking care of her, only for it to then be hinted that he *might be having sex with her* with the rumors of him leaving her room in the mornings and then revealed he *is* when Enoch catches them together and runs away, only for it to *then* be revealed that he's not really willing, he just doesn't feel like there's any point in resisting. He's powerless at the time and she's the empress. Plus he feels sorry for her.