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Not another comic villainizing corsets smh... also, if the robe a la française was an eig...

Rukadelnitsa June 10, 2021 3:38 am

Not another comic villainizing corsets smh... also, if the robe a la française was an eighteenth century thing, then it wouldn’t have technically even been a corset, rather it would have been stays, right? And even then, it wouldn’t have been painful necessarily... heavy, yes, painfully constricting no. If it was then that’s a problem with the design since corsets and stays were historically made to fit you especially for nobles. It was all custom to not be painful... I don’t know, fashion history buffs support me please

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    candycanejane June 10, 2021 3:56 am

    Yes,l corsets were used as support. I don't understand why people call them painful as long as you get a good well made one they can be very comfortable. Plus the villainizing of corsets came from men and even they wore them during the regency era.

    MinkyMuffs June 10, 2021 4:27 am

    I think they just meant to say that putting it on a growing child would be dangerous.

    SuyariBangtan June 10, 2021 4:38 am
    Yes,l corsets were used as support. I don't understand why people call them painful as long as you get a good well made one they can be very comfortable. Plus the villainizing of corsets came from men and even ... candycanejane

    There was a time i wore corset.... to tell you the truth, it's painful and uncomfortable hahaha maybe because my figure is so ugly ╥﹏╥
    Anyway back in the time, corsets is all women's pride(if i say so myself) and yes, corset is a big support.

    HoneyB June 10, 2021 7:02 am

    RIGHT!? I LITERALLY ALMOST WENT ON A RANT ABOUT IT!!!MISINFORMATION IS SO ANNOYING AND FRUSTRATING

    HoneyB June 10, 2021 7:05 am
    I think they just meant to say that putting it on a growing child would be dangerous. MinkyMuffs

    Oh your right. But wouldn't it be better for it to directly state that it would be dangerous for a growing child to wear it? I know I'm dumb but that could spread misinformation.

    DarkeAOU June 10, 2021 7:16 am

    Having read this part in the novel, in this instance corsets and paniers weren't exactly villainized per se. The issue was that the dresses are heavy, it's the middle of summer, and it's a day party with obligatory dancing. So the "painful" part was how great the risk of heatstroke was.

    Though the novel translations ended not far past the party, so dunno if there was an anti-corset rant later on. ╮( ̄▽ ̄)╭

    cash register June 10, 2021 10:33 am

    idk much abt corsets but i think it's because throughout history like in the movies etc they portray a woman wearing a corset to be like a hassle cuz they always show the servants tightening it suuuuper tight and it looks hard like cardboard... it also doesn't help that corsets centre around the idea of shaping a woman's body to have smaller waist which, when you look at it, looks quite uncomfortable and frankly painful to put on so maybe that has smtg to do with these isekai novels disliking corsets haha

    Elyon June 10, 2021 10:39 am

    True! Rather than the corsets, I believe it was mostly the societal pressure that led them into dangerous situations.

    Nemesis June 10, 2021 11:33 am
    Oh your right. But wouldn't it be better for it to directly state that it would be dangerous for a growing child to wear it? I know I'm dumb but that could spread misinformation. HoneyB

    It did, though. She said it can be, Imma stress the word 'be', painful for an adult how much more a child, especially how the previous chapters also talked about how Blanche was forced to diet at such a young age.

    Aileen June 10, 2021 11:39 am

    I'm glad to see people standing up for corsets ╥﹏╥ If anyone is interested in learing about corsets and has 15 minutes to spare, I'd recommend watching "How Victorian Men Taught Us to Hate Corsets: The Biggest Lie in Fashion History" by Karolina Zebrowska, or "I Grew Up in a Corset. Time to Bust Some Myths." by Bernadette Banner on YouTube!

    HoneyB June 10, 2021 4:14 pm
    I'm glad to see people standing up for corsets ╥﹏╥ If anyone is interested in learing about corsets and has 15 minutes to spare, I'd recommend watching "How Victorian Men Taught Us to Hate Corsets: The B... Aileen

    OMG YES Karolina Zebrowska and and Bernadette Banner are amazing!

    Rukadelnitsa June 10, 2021 4:27 pm
    idk much abt corsets but i think it's because throughout history like in the movies etc they portray a woman wearing a corset to be like a hassle cuz they always show the servants tightening it suuuuper tight a... cash register

    Most movies represent corsets wrong tho? Corsets are like historic bras. The only times they were tight laced was for rare occasions, and most movies fail to mention that to get that slim waist and everything, they kind of created an optical illusion. They would pad the boobs and butt to make them look bigger and the waist smaller. So while it looks really exaggerated and painful, it wasn’t because that wasn’t there actual shape, it was padding. And in terms of organs moving, it was never permanent. Your organs move around more when you are pregnant, and they always move back, and the same was with corsets. Yes it could be dangerous to tightlace every day, but nobody did that. Most things considered common knowledge today about corsets are generally wrong especially in terms of historical corsets. I’m not a professional on this subject, but I have done some research on this subject.

    cash register June 10, 2021 11:53 pm
    Most movies represent corsets wrong tho? Corsets are like historic bras. The only times they were tight laced was for rare occasions, and most movies fail to mention that to get that slim waist and everything, ... Rukadelnitsa

    thats the point i was making, the propaganda corsets have from movies etc cause their image for people to be on the negative side

    Rukadelnitsa June 11, 2021 12:34 am
    thats the point i was making, the propaganda corsets have from movies etc cause their image for people to be on the negative side cash register

    Ooooooh, that makes more sense.