i'm actually pretty sure that's because japanese has two words for virgin. and yes, it's separated like that. so, since english only has one word for it that makes it sound odd when you translate it.
that's weird... so in Japan, you can legit call a uke who has been having sex (as a bottom) for decades a "virgin" just because he didn't have sex with a woman ? that's funny x')
and what do you call s.o. who had sex with a women but never had anal sex with a man ?
he is virgin (at least anal virgin)
lol nope, a virgin is by definition, someone who has never had sex. If a guy had sex with eve 1 woman in his entire life then he isn't a virgin that's it. Or do you call every straight guy an "anal virgin" ? that's hilarious actually...
it's because the words are basically splitting female and male virginities. y'know so it would be taking it(female) and putting it in(male) i guess, eh. so if a guy has only has anal sex then technically he is still a "virgin" i.e. he hasn't put it in yet. but if a guy has, let's say, normal sex then he would have gotten rid of his (male) virginity. and of course you wouldn't actually ask a guy if he was a (female)virgin. so that's how that works.
I've also found it really annoying but thanks to your explanation, lots of these stories make more sense!!! Maybe I can finally enjoy them without that niggling annoyance!!! Going back to reread some of these "virgin-not virgin" stories :)
Does this means that lesbians that don't use toys to penetrate are also considered vigins?
Do they consider any penetration as end of being virgin? Example: a woman that never had sex with a man but uses sexual toys???
So, for them, a seme is no more vigin (even though he never had sex with a woman) but the uke is still virgin???
to answer from the bottom up, yes, the uke would still be technically considered a (male) virgin. he couldn't claim to be not a virgin in that sense but if he said he had sex then that skirts the word(virgin) and people know that he's not innocent.
if a guy uses a fleshlight does that mean he is not a virgin anymore? of course not. same thing. even if a woman uses sexual toys she would still be a virgin.
technically those lesbians would still be considered virgins. however, in lesbian circles since there's really only the one word for female virginity they just use the word virgin as not having had sex and therefore it reclaims its actual meaning instead of getting specific as opposed to how gay guys are able to borrow it and use two different words to separate things.
Thanks
Nah....a person who has had sex is not a virgin. It can be any type of sex. Two women who have had sex with each other are not virgins. It doesn't have to do with only having sex with the opposite sex.
There is this thing that always annoys me when reading yaoi, the way the uke often refers to himself as a virgin even though he has already had sex with the seme, he keeps separating "the front" and"the back" as if he has "two virginities" -_-
A virgin is someone who has never had sex, end of story. In this manga it isn't that big of a deal but it brought back memories from when I first read junjou romantica and Misaki kept bit*hing about being a virgin for a good 15 chapters...Bit*h you've been getting it for about 4-5 years (I think he celebrated his 22 birthday and when he started living with usagi he was 18) get over it !
no hate for junjou romantica though since it's absolutely my number 1 fav yaoi but Misaki was super annoying, thank god he is better now.