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YaoiIsLife July 24, 2021 3:56 pm

Hang in there y'all. Just several more weeks and the chapters will probably start rolling in. Official translations is important because this manhwa's plot is hella thiccc and inaccurate translations just confuses people more.

Now about Sid, I really thought he was just some villain but damn, as the chapters progressed, it became clear that there's a much, much deeper shit going on with him. I sympathize with him. I kinda don't want him to die.

However, I really don't want Sid to end up with Jin tho. What Sid did to Jin was too much and Jin definitely, definitely hates Sid. There's really no future with them. Plus Jin has Aaron now and if you know/read the raws, then you know why they are perfect for each other ;)

Ben looks like a promising partner for Sid tho. Look at how they interact. They got that "lovers that always argue but deep down they really love each other" chemistry vibe. It's cute. Plus they're quite a power couple if they get together. After all, they are both one of Cain's most powerful subordinates.

To end this comment, I have to say I want Cain, Ben, and Jin to sandwich me HARD. That's all folks.

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    Lucullus July 24, 2021 3:13 pm

    Spoiler... but it seems you read the raws anyways ;)
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    I really have to contradict with Jin and Aaron.

    They are just a different level of toxic.

    -- Aaron knows that Jin has lost his memory and is in some kind of mental-instability. He may not know that Jin was in love with Joon before, but he does know that right now Jin is not really his usual self. It does not bother Aaron though, as all he cares about at that point is to find some replacement for his lost love (Gayle even calls him out on that in one of the most recent chapters) and to get himself laid.

    And after all, he's just another demon. As per Sid's words: "He's the same as me. He has been feeding off human life for centuries".


    -- And the thing with Jin is even more complicated. First of all, the moment he gets his memory back he leaves Aaron, who is unconscious and probably in a life-threatening situation. He leaves to go back to Joon. To me it does not seem like there is any love from Jin's side left after that.
    Yes, he obviously hates Sid and has reason to, but at some point he states himself, that Sid did not even put him under a spell anymore, but that he f*ck*d him by his own volition. And one of the reasons why he does so is that he wants to hurt him.

    Jin also claims about himself several times that he is not the good person he appears to be.


    So, if you asked me for the only non-toxic possibility for Jin, then my answer would be Joon. But as everyone wants Joon with Cain, I can't see that happening ;)


    And I really don't see the pairing of Sid and Ben apart from the usual wishful thinking that happens in BL once there are two new characters in the same frame. They obviously hate each other.

    Lucullus July 24, 2021 3:59 pm

    Spoiler... but it seems you read ahead anyways ;)
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    I really have to contradict with Jin and Aaron.

    They are just a different level of toxic.

    -- Aaron knows that Jin has lost his memory and is in some kind of mental-instability. He may not know that Jin was in love with Joon before, but he does know that right now Jin is not really his usual self. It does not bother Aaron though, as all he cares about at that point is to find some replacement for his lost love (Gayle even calls him out on that in one of the most recent chapters) and to get himself laid.

    And after all, he's just another demon. As per Sid's words: "He's the same as me. He has been feeding off human life for centuries".


    -- And the thing with Jin is even more complicated. First of all, the moment he gets his memory back he leaves Aaron, who is unconscious and probably in a life-threatening situation. He leaves to go back to Joon. To me it does not seem like there is any love from Jin's side left after that.
    Yes, he obviously hates Sid and has reason to, but at some point he states himself, that Sid did not even put him under a spell anymore, but that he f*ck*d him by his own volition. And one of the reasons why he does so is that he wants to hurt him.

    Jin also claims about himself several times that he is not the good person he appears to be.


    So, if you asked me for the only non-toxic possibility for Jin, then my answer would be Joon. But as everyone wants Joon with Cain, I can't see that happening ;)


    And I really don't see the pairing of Sid and Ben apart from the usual wishful thinking that happens in BL once there are two new characters in the same frame. They obviously hate each other.

    Lucullus July 24, 2021 4:00 pm
    Spoiler... but it seems you read ahead anyways ;)......I really have to contradict with Jin and Aaron.They are just a different level of toxic.-- Aaron knows that Jin has lost his memory and is in some kind of ... Lucullus

    sorry for the double post, mangago kept showing me the entry as not posted in 2 browsers and my phone, so I thought it had not gotten through

    YaoiIsLife July 24, 2021 4:40 pm
    Spoiler... but it seems you read ahead anyways ;)......I really have to contradict with Jin and Aaron.They are just a different level of toxic.-- Aaron knows that Jin has lost his memory and is in some kind of ... Lucullus

    Hmmm, I'm really sorry and no offense but some of those sounds farfetched to be honest.

    Before I continue, I'm gonna be really, really frank to you. I know that you really like Sid. Because of that, athough I'm not 100% certain, I can't stop but consider the possibility that this comment of yours might be biased in favor to Sid. Sorry but it's just what I really feel about this.

    Now continuing,

    Perhaps, they might be on "another type of toxic" but it really pales in comparison to what Sid has done.


    Now about Jin leaving Aaron, I don't get it. Last I checked on the latest raws, they are still together, alone together somewhere. Plus like, didn't the both of them leave to go/hide somewhere after Jin was healed or something?


    About Jin fucking Sid on his own volition, I mean I kinda side with Jin on this one given what Sid has done to him. And I also know that Jin is not exactly a "good" guy. Then again, he's not really a bad guy either. He's just not perfect and he's flawed, just like any other human.


    I still highly think that Jin is possibly a reincarnation of Aaron's former lover, hence the unusual sense of familiarity that Jin and Aaron had when they first met and while they're together.


    If Cain didn't exist, I would ship Jin and Joon. But unfortunately for Jin, it was Cain who really wooed Joon in the end. Thus the Cain and Joon ship is an unbreakable ship for me now. (Also, if I recalled correctly, Cain and Joon was actually also meant to be or have been together in the past)


    Now about Ben and Sid, fair enough. There's really no "romantic" interactions between them yet in the raws. Then again, there's a trope of "haters to lovers" and I'm feeling this from them. Also, I kinda doubt that the author doesn't have any plans of them together. Seeing how things are right now, Ben so far is the only best candidate for Sid. Either Sid will get together with Ben or not as Sid will be alone and will probably die via some sort of an heroic sacrifice. Now I don't really want the latter to happen so that's why I'm hoping for the Ben x Sid ship to sail.

    Lucullus July 24, 2021 5:34 pm

    Ok one by one :D


    --- First of all, yes, I might be biased towards Sid but in a different way than you might think. His treatment of Jin is completely offing him in any way as a potential lover of Jin's in my eyes. I am not excusing what he did nor do I think it is forgivable from the point of view of Jin.

    The only thing I am prone to do is to "defend" Sid in the sense of him being a demon. People tend to judge him on human terms and that does not make sense to me. They claim he treated Jin badly as if he was a toxic-human-lover who did so - but he is not human. He is a demon, he has no understanding of human emotions and thus does not know how to treat Jin well.

    That said he obviously WANTS to treat him well - at least some part of him does so. He just does not know how he could do that. Also it should never be forgotten that he is not all "there". There are some forces trying and probably winning at controlling him most of the time and they don't want to have him feel emotions or to feel in any way possitively towards Jin.

    (And furthermore I like to point out that Cain would have treated Joon just the way Sid treated Jin, if Joon would not have been so forthcoming. Cain is a demon and he was surprised himself to find a Door as good as Joon. He would never have let that opportunity slip only because Joon didn't want to play his part.)


    --- The part with Jin leaving Aaron then obviously is a spoiler to you and I am sorry if I did spoil you there. I thought you were up to date. I read the chapters on bomtoon which is the official platform of the author. They are at 109 there.


    --- The thing with the reincartion is something that I never got. As far as I understood it's not in the story but was brought up by some reader's interpretation. I have been asking many times about where people get the whole idea from but was never shown any point in the story.
    My interpretation is that on Jin's part "Loving Joon" was that much a part of his personality that the moment he forgot "whom he had loved" the neccessity of "loving someone" was still there. He flung that void onto Aaron because he remained by his side and tried to take care of him.

    There is also no mention of Aaron thinking of Jin of his lover as war as I can see. He is just reminded of him of his lost love.

    BUT if Jin really was Aaron's lovers reincarnation then why would that love be gone the moment Jin remembers? It's in the raws which I get now that you have not seen yet, so again sorry, if I spoiled this for you. But when Sid gives Jin his memory back, Jin leaves Aaron and cares only about Joon again.

    So alone from that moment it would not make sense for the author to put the "lover incarnation" thing in only to let it completely slip away the moment Jin becomes his real self again. If he WAS the incarnation of Aaron's lover for real that very moment would be like showing the middle finger to Aaron and saying "Yeah, i was that once, but now I love someone else. Byebye."