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Challenge for bl / yaoi fans

NutMan August 8, 2023 6:15 am

Name more than two bl/yaoi where rape is depicted well. I can name one, I can barely name two, but I can't name a third.

Zankoku Na Kami Ga Shihai Sure (the best depiction of rape I've seen in media in general)
Boy meets Maria
(Honorable mention goes to J no Subete, it's listed as yaoi but the character identifies as a woman, so not really)

Responses
    Kokichi’s Grape Panta August 8, 2023 6:37 am

    There was this one I read about a dude with a sheep mask that kidnapped his old terrorizer from his military days and left longstanding trauma on the kidnappee, and killing stalking ig but thats less BL and more boys-experiencingfuckedupshit

    Kokichi’s Grape Panta August 8, 2023 6:39 am
    There was this one I read about a dude with a sheep mask that kidnapped his old terrorizer from his military days and left longstanding trauma on the kidnappee, and killing stalking ig but thats less BL and mor... Kokichi’s Grape Panta

    Not sure if I sent this link yet already cause mangago is kind of wack but

    https://www.mangago.me/read-manga/sheep_s_mask/

    NutMan August 8, 2023 6:45 am
    There was this one I read about a dude with a sheep mask that kidnapped his old terrorizer from his military days and left longstanding trauma on the kidnappee, and killing stalking ig but thats less BL and mor... Kokichi’s Grape Panta

    I read that one and I really dislike it because its essentially rape porn interspersed with a backstory. It feels gross to read without having any real appeal except revenge. And for killing stalking, I feel like the rape is sort of just another way of showing the guys being tortured by a psychopath

    Charlotte505 August 8, 2023 2:05 pm

    It's not that the rape itself is well depicted in terms of the emotional and psychological effects it has on the uke, but it does explore the toll it has on the seme later in the series. It was a refreshing point to see rape being addressed "properly" even if much later. In this case the seme is struck with huge feelings of guilt and self loathing for what he did to the uke, and spirals out mentally due to it. It's in hidoku shinaide (rape in volume 1, chapter 1 and the reflection in volume 6). The character development game there is great and one of the reasons why it's one of my favorite mangas and couples of all time.

    NutMan August 8, 2023 7:21 pm
    It's not that the rape itself is well depicted in terms of the emotional and psychological effects it has on the uke, but it does explore the toll it has on the seme later in the series. It was a refreshing poi... Charlotte505

    I read it because of what you said and yeah the character development is well done, but he feels bad for the last few pages of one chapter and then half of another. He literally showed no remorse until a side character almost got raped as a plot device. Him refusing to have sex one time and acting moody isn't really the act of a penitent. And right afterwards they had sex and moved right on to the dad storyline. That's pretty much the author going "well we're going to have to address this at some point" and then moving on as soon as possible. I honestly feel like the story didn't need rape in it, if they wanted a redemption arc they could've just had the top be an asshole not a rapist bastard. He also just shifts from rapist bastard to a persistent sex fiend to emotionally abusive and cold to a doting possessive top. He goes from incredibly unlikable to a stand up guy within like 3 chapters. Honestly the handling of the rape really drags this from like an 8 to a 5 for me.

    Charlotte505 August 9, 2023 6:34 pm
    I read it because of what you said and yeah the character development is well done, but he feels bad for the last few pages of one chapter and then half of another. He literally showed no remorse until a side c... NutMan

    I just think that for a semi old school manga to even address it at all is great. Its actually not the only scene where they address it it's just the main one. An although I do agree the the seme was more than an asswipe at the first volume the more you read in the more grounded he gets. But at the end of the day this is just my two cents. If you agree with me of not is beyond my control ╮( ̄▽ ̄)╭

    Kokichi’s Grape Panta August 10, 2023 3:13 am
    I read that one and I really dislike it because its essentially rape porn interspersed with a backstory. It feels gross to read without having any real appeal except revenge. And for killing stalking, I feel li... NutMan

    Yah smut in BL has become something else entirely over the years it’s why I try to stick to fluffier bl

    Charlotte505 August 10, 2023 10:55 am
    Yah smut in BL has become something else entirely over the years it’s why I try to stick to fluffier bl Kokichi’s Grape Panta

    Understandable ヾ(❀╹◡╹)ノ~

    NutMan August 10, 2023 1:34 pm
    Yah smut in BL has become something else entirely over the years it’s why I try to stick to fluffier bl Kokichi’s Grape Panta

    Yeah most of the time I skip the yaoi tag and go with the shonen ai. Like, a lot of them have actually interesting plots and characters, but if you want to get to that, it's interrupted every other chapter with a sex scene.