exactly. idk what the author thought but it felt a lil too early for my guy to even think of catching feelings
lmao yeah it feels way too rushed and forced (like just so you can consider this manhwa romance) it would've been so much better if jaekyung fell first cause that would make so mucb more sense considering how kind kim dan is despite him being an asshole
was for real convinced doc dan was an aroace
Right! he’s constantly been humiliated it doesn’t feel convincing at all. Jaekyung has been a walking red flag from the beginning I have noooo idea how the author is going to unravel this and make him lovable
EXACTLY! I’d rather see jaekyung fall for him first so I can see him being on his KNEES begging for forgiveness and an apology letter with TEARS for hurting my son
Is it rushed and forced? Are you sure JK didn’t fall first? While he is toxic don’t forget he is just BEING one. He can change.
Why is he doing what he is doing? Why is he getting jealous? Why get Dan when he already had a partner?
For op——
This isn’t Stockholm syndrome.
When it comes to love it is never to early to catch feelings.
Well he said his jinx wouldn’t work if he has sex with someone and enjoys it, so he came to Dan because he found him attractive. Being attracted to someone doesn’t imply falling in love, jae hasn’t shown any signs of true love yet. We can see he’s patient with Dan sometimes but it’s not proportional to how awful he was to him. Well I know technically it isn’t stockholm syndrome since the author is writing a love story but giving the circonstances of Dan it kind of looks like it so I made the joke, it’s not serious
lmao you're only thinking like this cause youre probably one of those people who romantizes toxicity.
"he can change" i mean yeah that's like 90% of all the yaois here, they just justify the top's action by some bs trauma. seeing you excuse jaekyung's behavior is really funny
its literally a stockholm sydrome-like manhwa except there's no kidnapping going around imagine falling inlove with someone who abuses you. its not about catching feelings fast, its how jaekyung is treating kim dan like an actual shit but still kim dan manages to catch feelings. grow up
Lmao! No I am just educated and not misusing terms because I hate the story.
I don’t read many romance stories. I am straight too. My wife, my best friend, and their friends love yaoi/bl love and asks me to analyze something or settle something for them.
So we can have a civil conversation or you can tell me you have no rational argument because you know I am right to personally attack me instead of using story points or a definition that does not correspond with your pov. I don’t and never have excused JK behavior. So you must had knowing you were wrong to lie about me to discredit me in way you could think off. Your responses only revealed more about your insecurities and weakness. This is not Stockholm syndrome and your bad faith behavior tells me you know that. Take your own advice. You are the one that needs it. Please grow up. Have mature and civil conversation.
im having a hard time understanding this because of the lack of punctuation usage, but i did understand that you denied justifying jaekyung's behavior because "he can change". CAN, that's literally means he hasn't yet which does invalidates you because my pov is correct, we're only at ch. 30 so far and jaekyung hasn't done anything for kim dan for him to catch feelings on. But let's say that providing money and shelter is, do you think that it's normal to fall in love with that reason despite them mentally and physically abusing you? that would fall under stockholm sydrome-like category, we never said it was stockholm sydrome, its just relatively close.
My questions were for you to think about the story not for you to answer them to me.
Can you give me the chapter and line for this “Well he said his jinx wouldn’t work if he has sex with someone and enjoys it,”
I remember chapter 2 and he is talking about him (himself) enjoying the sex. Maybe you had a few sentences in your head but they merged as one?
“Being attracted to someone doesn’t imply falling in love,”. That is true but you are failing to see something and my point. However, it took me 3 months to learn I fell in love with my wife when I first met her. I don’t understand my feelings or how to understand them. It took our friends asking if we were dating to get us to start looking at what we had.
“jae hasn’t shown any signs of true love yet.”
Huh? Are you sure? He has did some big acts that some are dismissing for his violent behavior but it is his true character. He is toxic but some people are making him out to be worst than he is. When you defend the story or point out facts somehow you are excusing him of his bad behavior. I am starting to see that as is the go to argument when they (the haters) are losing or lost and they know it.
Thank you for confirming the Stockholm syndrome is a joke. However, many people believes it is Stockholm syndrome but it is like claiming this is incest. You may not be serious but as you can tell others are. So, joke or not, you erroneously reinforced the idea with the haters. They love to spread the hate in anyway they can even with lies. There are too many on this page.
You can change your behavior. The beginning of what your comment is what trolls and cyber bullies do when they know they are losing.
This doesn’t excuse your behavior. I never justify his behavior. I am not defending him. He is toxic. Your replies are toxic. You are pushing your agenda on me. Anyone can change their behavior and that doesn’t justify anything. That means they learn and change for the better. It is you that is twisting my words for a sick point for your hate pushing agenda. Can = present tense. You are the making it excuses his toxic behavior because you know you are losing and have no rational argument. This isn’t Stockholm syndrome and not even relatively close to Stockholm syndrome. You are only trying to discredit me because you know your are wrong. Trolling tricks. You can change your behavior and your behavior isn’t excused. Also I will read Jinx by Mingwa not the one you are making up. Thank you.
My last sentence
note: some details are on track but …… some details are off.. and not even read the story carefully.
i am being serious when i said i couldn't understand you because you're taking this way too seriously than you should be that's why i pointed it out incase i misunderstood something. Yes, anyone can change but that doesn't mean we should be tolerating their behavior. You shouldn't have replied here if you're just gonna invalidate us by saying we are being trolls. You keep on pointing out that we're losing which doesn't seem to be. You're being a close minded fuck who wouldn't understand others understanding of the story.
Mingwa is known for making fictional assholes whose then given a character development for the justification of their assholeness. What im trying to say is that mingwa has a history for these kind of characters. Even if mingwa is not justifying their action, why would you make another one. I have "forgiven" jiwon(toxic character from previous work of mingwa) because he did already change, he had shown and proved it to us, and jaekyung hasn't yet, which validates our feelings for his toxicness. I won't be tolerating his behavior until he'll treat kim dan right and im being rational because it's valid to feel like this after seeing all of those abuses.
You're not being rational at all
i am being serious when i said i couldn't understand you because you're taking this way too seriously than you should be that's why i pointed it out incase i misunderstood something.
That doesn’t correspond with your last nonsensical sentence Also, how can I be too serious when you can’t understand me and imposing false accusations on me.
“Yes, anyone can change but that doesn't mean we should be tolerating their behavior.” That is your imposing false accusation. I never indicated that. You did.
“You shouldn't have replied here if you're just gonna invalidate us by saying we are being trolls.” I don’t really.
I was talking about your behavior that compares to them. Behavior I don’t tolerate but you can change it. You can change your behavior does not mean I excuse your bad behavior. That is illogical.
“You keep on pointing out that we're losing which doesn't seem to be.” You are using tactics that debaters do when they are losing or lost. You are taking the story out of context a bit too to make a illogical argument. You are using another one.
The part about being a close minded is definitely describing you. You are now cussing and name calling. That is immature and your insecurities are showing. You are exposing yourself.
Your comments are real and toxic. You are personally attacking others to be right. I will not let a story control me like you are letting this story control you. Look how you are cowering and treating others. You know I am being very rational and that is another troll trick. You are trying to discredit me in front of others because you know you have no rational argument. I am not just saying this. You got triggered and attacked me from me repeating research. You think you are attacking me but you are attacking words from research to trying to punish me to feel better about yourself and feel more superior. Your insecurities are showing. You are trying to discredit me. It is reality where I am coming from. You are not describing me at all as you can tell. Keep desperately describing yourself.
Lmao! No I am just educated and not misusing terms because I hate the story.
I don’t read many romance stories. I am straight too to make another claim invalid. My wife, my best friend, and their friends love yaoi/bl love. They ask me to analyze something or settle something for them.
We (me and you) can have a civil conversation or you can tell me, you have no rational argument because you know I am right to personally attack me instead of using story points or a definition that does not correspond with your pov. (Which you continue to personally attacking to even cuss at me with pathetic lies.)
I don’t and never have excused JK behavior. Therefore, you must had knowing you were wrong to lie about me to discredit me in way you could think off. Your responses only revealed more about your insecurities and weakness. This is not Stockholm syndrome and your bad faith behavior tells me you know that. Take your own advice. You are the one that needs it. Please grow up. Have mature and civil conversation.
—— If you think it is serious it is your fault because I only reacted to how you treated me and your interpretation. I don’t write with “so” unless in casual conversation. Now I change it the so to other words if I am going to be excused of being serious. I will be more serious.
My message wasn’t that hard to understand. You are imposing false arguments and personally attacking me over nothing.
bro do you ever shut the fuck up?
Do you, cyber bully? If you are going to be toxic and disrespectful we are not bros.
Do you ever mature and treat people right? You did not have to show your immaturity and toxicity to everyone.
I thought we were cool, bro. You aren’t God. You are a disappointment. Your behavoir is disgusting.
From the very beginning, you keep on rebutting me by giving personal experience. That won't point anything and i know you're new to this whole romance thing as you mentioned you haven't read many romance stories earlier which makes you're whole starting point weak.
You know dunning-kruger effect? Yeah, thats something you have mate. Since your new here, let me just tell you a thing learnt from all these FICTIONAL romance stories, always separate the reality because fiction will always be fiction. Despite me hating jaekyung as an asshole, aren't you wondering why am i still reading it? CAUSE ITS FICTION, let your imagination run wild, that's why im stuck enjoying reading these instead of some documentaries. So stop saying that im being irrational because i know what im doing. Saying im out of context for providing external evidence from the same author and with my experience as yaoi/bl reader for a long time when you're validating your points by providing personal experience, you're funny.
I called you irrational cause you are. You keep on validating yourself by thinking were attacking you when im clearly just voicing out my opinions as you try to invalidate ours. You're doing the same thing too, which is totally valid because thats what argument is all about. If i sounded really insensitive and hurt you're feeling then im gonna apologize for that. Im not gonna apologize for correcting you though.
AND don't call me insecure, you're the one whose twisting my words in order to use it as a rebut to me, are you seeing how pointless you are is that why your doing that? Who said im letting this story control me? You seems to be the one whose doing that seeing how you keep on connecting your personal life with it.
How am i supposed to be convinced of Dan’s growing feelings over Jaekyung? Like it’s kinda giving stockholm syndrome idk