I feel the need to correct you on some points of your analysis here.
Horus X Seth second rape is an alternate ending. It was the first ending Mojito had for the manhwa. In that, Horus has clearly some of Osiris characteristics. It was the ending she scrapped to develop their relationship. That's more of an extra chapter and it's not meant to be included into the main story. Horus didn't rape Seth on his own volition but was influenced by Sekhmet (he regretted it after). She also tweaked Seth brain to make him weaker the day Horus raped him.
Osiris, Isis, Seth and Nephtys are Geb (God of earth) and Nut (Goddess of sky) children, so they are all blood related. Nephtys wasn't in love of Osiris but wanted to give a child to Seth as it was his view of a good foundation of family. She consulted Osiris (who made Seth sterile) and conceived Anubis (Osiris said he didn't touch her.
Other than that everything is good.
"That's more of an extra chapter and it's not meant to be included into the main story."
That doesn't make sense though, that the rape happened is carried forward. It's addressed again shortly after. There's continuity there. It also just flows well with the rest of the story, it didn't seem like it's meant to be discarded
"Horus didn't rape Seth on his own volition but was influenced by Sekhmet (he regretted it after). She also tweaked Seth brain to make him weaker the day Horus raped him."
This is one of those things where we're given conflicting information because Sekhmet denies that it was a curse, she says that he wanted to do it. He regrets it, but it's also something he wanted to do deep down, like how Set hates and wants to kill Anubis deep down but still chooses his love for his son over the feelings of betrayal. Going back to this though:
"In that, Horus has clearly some of Osiris characteristics."
More vague lore stuff. It's clearly to do with that he is Osiris's son, we see Osiris is able to exert influence through Anubis this way. But Horus notably *isn't* being controlled like Anubis was so it seems like maybe Horus just inherited some of his father's obsessiveness, explaining the way he wanted to dominate and possess Set when his mind was messed with by Sekhmet.
"Osiris, Isis, Seth and Nephtys are Geb (God of earth) and Nut (Goddess of sky) children, so they are all blood related."
Oh that's true, It didn't click for some reason that Isis X Osiris and Set X Neph was incest too. It definitely goes on the list of incests/loves. For some reason I didn't really think of them, just the more main characters and their interests.
"Nephtys wasn't in love of Osiris but wanted to give a child to Seth as it was his view of a good foundation of family. She consulted Osiris (who made Seth sterile) and conceived Anubis (Osiris said he didn't touch her."
All of this is just wrong. If you read the final testimony on ch 69 where Neph comes out and reveals what happened to the gods, she admits she had a child with Osiris because she was in love with him and that her choice was the result of her "disgusting feelings". She imprisoned herself because she knew Set truly loved her and couldn't handle the guilt of lying to him about Anubis being his son and her infidelity with Osiris. Osiris also tells Set directly that he put his seed in Neph. You're referencing that he didn't actually have sex with her though, he did some god stuff to place his seed in her at her request. She didn't ask for a child for Set, she loved Osiris and wanted his child and then the guilt crushed her. I'm pretty sure the idea of a child being the foundation of a family thing was an observation Osiris was making about Set. An insight. Could be wrong, I'd have to read back, but I'm pretty sure that's separate to Neph's infidelity
Having read back, Osiris does say that it was Neph that told him that Set wanted a child so that part was right. I guess she lied to Osiris about her reasoning for wanting a child, she told him it was for Set and told him about how Set views having a child a cornerstone of sorts to keeping someone tied to you. He gave her the child and the rest is as we discussed above
I forgot the bit in chapter 69. Nephtys indeed said that.
Like I said, the second rape doesn't count in the story. Read the author's note in chapter 74. It is said to be set a parallel universe. That's why I said Horus takes some of the characteristics of Osiris in the main story. Where was the second rape carried forward, may I ask?
Now to understand why I said Sekhmet has everything to do with Horus raping Seth, you have to reread chapters 17 to 20 and go to 30. Everything has to do with the mirror. One plot point forgotten until now is they are two Nephtys: the one inside the mirror and the mother of Anubis.
The mirror has two goddesses side by side. Hathor (love) and Sekhmet (destruction). When Horus saw Seth (Hathor smiled) in the mirror he went inside and met a Nephtys claiming to be the "true" one.
Before overpowering Seth, the figure of Sekhmet in the mirror talked about Seth cutting her arm and smiled. There is no curse in Horus but his actions where heavily influenced by Sekhmet because of his connection with the mirror. Even if he wanted to make love to Seth, in his right mind he wouldn't dare to force him.
I misunderstood your reply, I thought you were saying the rape on ch 30-32 was an alternate for some reason, not sure how I got that mixed up as that's not the "second" one on pages 74 and 75... You're right about those being alternate and my comment about continuity was about the rape on page 30-32. Reading comprehension issue on my part. The continuity was Set mentioning that Horus was speaking to him after what he'd done, but that was besides your point
I actually skipped the author's note on page 74, so this was actually really helpful because when I read that chapter I was very confused by Horus's abusive behavior to Set. I thought it seemed a little *too* hard core and guilt trippy to Set and felt kinda out of Horus's character, the piece falls into place knowing it's alt
"One plot point forgotten until now is they are two Nephtys: the one inside the mirror and the mother of Anubis."
I've been wondering about this. It looked like it was just... Dropped. He never told Set about her being in the mirror even though he remembers given his conversation with Sekhmet. So like... Who is the fake? Is she even the mother of Anubis or is his real mother in the mirror? Why does the fake one seem like she's the real one even to us? The one with all the history that is the backstory of this is the fake one, right? She seems to be the one who had Anubis and felt guilty. But the one in the mirror loves Set I guess? I'm so confused by that
So what do you feel about Isis? I've been going back and forth about her in my head. I can't decide if I hate her or if her actions are justified. I know that her blaming Set for Osiris's obsession is just plain wrong, and the story has even been recently trying to address that with her guilt towards Set and the coma. I also feel like her still loving Osiris and having Horus with him after what she saw is a bit disgusting. But I think it's implied that she's trying to get revenge against Osiris? She mentions "her revenge". What is her revenge?
The story tries to justify her hatred of Set by making it so that he tried to use her in his revenge against Osiris. He was going to take Isis either as his wife or was just trying to have sex with her because she is Osiris's wife, can't remember. She then suffers under his long rule for defying him. Part of me is just kinda like "oh no, you had to suffer after having a child with the guy you saw rape your brother? Poor you". Though she definitely should've had a choice in whether or not she wants to be with Set, he just wanted her for revenge and when she said no he set everyone against her. From his perspective he wronged her, from her perspective I can't really be sure how I feel because she *saw what happened and did nothing while blaming Set*, revived the assailant, had a child with him and then the whole thing with Set happened.
The good thing about all this though is that it seems like the author is starting to conclude things by focusing on how much the characters care for each other underneath all the hate. Set's "only hope" now is the promise he made with Anubis, he set aside his hatred for Nephtys and Anubis in favor of his love for them and hopes to be together again one day when he atones. Horus has said to Set that he hopes to one day become someone important to him. Set and Isis have been thinking about what they did to each other and Isis is finally facing her guilt towards Set and her lingering feelings for him as her little brother, I get the feeling these two will make up soon and that's how Horus loving Set will become okay.
Osiris is unfortunately living luxuriously in hell, not sure where that's going. He's a constant thorn in Set's side, he has way too much influence on the world of the living for peace to be maintained. Maybe Anubis is the key here? Once he gets his memories back maybe he will dethrone Osiris in Duat? I hate, absolutely loath, Osiris but the author has done a good job of making it *feel* like he actually does love Set underneath all that obsession and insanity. Like, I don't doubt that if they did get together that he would treat Set like the most precious thing in the world. The issue is that the feeling doesn't seem reciprocated dude. Especially not after **making him sterile, ruining his marriage, grinding up his son's existence, making him chop off his son's arm and curse him to death and sending a follower that had him gang raped**. It's so crazy to me that he's still like "come to Duat. Do it for me. Can't you do just one thing for me? I love you". ???
About Isis, my feelings for her is a line between pity and hate. She loved someone who never loved her in return but she is playing too much the victim card. She saw what was happening, knew everything and choose to curse every single one of her siblings including herself. She will never have Osiris love, Osiris will never have Seth, Seth will never have his family love and Nephtys will never find death. Seth trying to use her is just the excuse she made to hate him(not that it didn't happen, but she was the only one beside Osiris having the full picture and seeing Seth character, he would have broke down if his sister said that she knew everything). What make me feel pity for her is her love for Osiris and Seth. Even in her nightmare Osiris didn't even care to look at her with love. She love Seth as her dear brother but chose to destroy all of that because she was betrayed by her husband.
Her revenge against Osiris is her curse as no one will have what they desire and to some extend Horus.
I loathe Osiris and that's a given, but at the same time I want to understand his motives. What I like about Ennead is the fact that there is no black and white.
I have a theory after knowing how Gods are created. Besides Ra and her children, Osiris, Isis, Seth and Nephtys and maybe their parents were demigods before as they were born from two Gods. Ra is the only asexual God and the others need to have normal sex.
I think Osiris is the only one remembering his life as a demigod. When Osiris thought that Seth died, he said something like "Once again, someone dear is taken away from me. I will not allow it" before making himself mortal. There is also his bald appearance kneeling on the sand in the flashback. He didn't have any apparel like now as Anubis before becoming the god of death. He was obsessed and desperate as the god of life. But I think that as the king of Duat he became more obsessed and resentful. As he is right now, I don't really think he loves Seth.
I think Horus wants to overwrite Seth's promise to Anubis. That's why he is doing all the shenanigans until now. We will see how everything will unfold.
"I have a theory after knowing how Gods are created. Besides Ra and her children, Osiris, Isis, Seth and Nephtys and maybe their parents were demigods before as they were born from two Gods. Ra is the only asexual God and the others need to have normal sex."
I hadn't considered that, I assumed demigods are specifically born to a human and a god, but thinking about it both Anubis and Horus were demigods born to gods. Though those two are given an explanation, THAT they're demigods is a plot point. They're demigods because Set cursed the two of them to stay how they are because of his feelings for Anubis. He wanted him to stay as "his little boy" and Horus suffered the curse because he met with Set back then and was mistaken for Anubis.
"I think Horus wants to overwrite Seth's promise to Anubis. That's why he is doing all the shenanigans until now. We will see how everything will unfold."
I really hope that's not the case because if it is then Set has A LOT more pain coming. Anubis is his everything. Honestly, I think Horus knows that and has been trying to come into his life in a more reasonable way. By just being there for him. It didn't look to me like he's trying to overwrite the promise, I think he knows how much it means to Set. We know he hates their connection and how much it hurts Set. He spared Anubis for a long time and now he is more aggressive with him because of the state of Anubis's mind messing with Set, but it's also sort of started to... Calm down a bit? It keeps being mentioned that they're brothers and they seem to bicker now over Set rather than outright hostility. The relationship between the three has become sort of comedic and once Anubis gets his memories back I think everything will fall into place. He never had romantic feelings for his father, that pretty much just leaves Horus as the prospective partner between the two brothers. I don't see the foreign god as a serious candidate tbh, despite him being the most reasonable to Set and obviously actually caring about him too. The only thing that complicates things is Set's relationship with Neph. Like, is that ever going to resurface or is that just done? But I'm thinking that's just done. Set knows she gave Osiris the thing he needed to impregnate him and also bore Osiris's child. He hates her and Anubis for this. But the promise includes her so I'm not so sure it *is* done. Does he plan to atone and then go back to his marriage with Neph and Anubis?!
Story aside... Really hot sex (rape tbh) scenes. The aesthetic of ch 32 was *chef's kiss*. That thrust!
First off guys, there's a lot of incest here. But it's gods so... That's pretty normal. There's Horus X Set (Set's nephew is in love with him since he was a child, he rapes Set twice so far in the story. He seems to be starting to fall for Horus, but it's still just implicit. There's nothing really substantial yet, just that he's started to be more caring with Horus).
There's Osiris X Set (Osiris is Set's brother. There's talk of them being "blood related" and they had a brotherly relationship with separate wives till Osiris blew the lid off everything because he ran out of patience, he's obsessive over Set. He sees that Set's idea of tying someone down is to have a child with them so he gets it in his head that he should impregnate Set to tie him to himself. He doesn't have the power of creation himself, so he borrows it, but it only allows him to create the body of a god, he cannot create a whole god. He has a way to solve this. Set's wife is in love with Osiris so he agrees to impregnate her if she gives him Set. She births Anubis. His plan is then to take Anubis's soul and place it in the child he plans to create in Set, making him pregnant with a complete god that he'll be forced to carry and love because it's his own son. This is stopped right before Osiris can do it).
There's Anubis X Set, though this one's more just because his son Anubis is messed up and doesn't remember Set for story reasons. And it's not like it's really a conscious thing. Anubis is mentally damaged by Osiris, who is constantly trying to use him to bring Set to the underworld so he can finally have him. You'll understand the nature of their relationship better once you get to it, it's not the same as the others so far who are in love with and obsessive over Set and raping him with that love being the reason. Imo things aren't really ramping up between Anubis and Set, there's still a feel of "we're just family" from Set and Anubis just feels out of it as the reason for his behavior. Horus seems to actually love him, Osiris "loves" him but it's obsessive to the point you just want him gone. Though ill admit that it *does* feel like Osiris would treat him well once they got past that point of no return and he had Set for good. In the case of Anubis, he just thinks "why does this guy act like he knows me? He's crying and clearly cares about me. Were we lovers?" and kisses him to see if that will spark memories. He then goes to Duat and becomes more mindless for a bit because Osiris did something, even being unable to talk and acting feral at times. This is when he starts sucking/licking on Set (like on his cheek. Seems primal/like Set's blood tastes good to him and he likes kisses) and biting him, that's the extent of their sexuality so far. Set gives him a kiss to persuade him to help them but it's a fatherly kiss to him
There's the unknown foreign god X Set. Which is honestly surprisingly satisfying? Their dynamic is very refreshing and he treats Set very well. The sex is also dubiously consensual rather than straight up rape like the other guys. Set is drugged up on aphrodisiacs. You know the cliche, he'll be in danger if the symptoms aren't handled so the guy "helps" him with that (while explicitly having always had intentions of having sex with Set, he approached him with intentions of making him his). Set does agree to it thinking it shouldn't hurt anything to receive the help. This pairing starts off with the god pretending to be one of Set's followers and following Set through a bit of a character arc as he faces his followers and their meaning to him.
There is the rape of Set by his followers, which was implied to have been Osiris's plan by Set, but Osiris denies it. Set says Osiris made it happen so he could extend a hand to Set in his worst state. Osiris says he is extending his hand because he loves him and couldn't stand what he was seeing happen. He is seen taking the souls of the rapists and torturing them in Duat personally so it seems he might actually be innocent here. The guy Osiris revived was just supposed to bring Set to him I guess, but the guy has personal motives, he wanted to see the gods squirm and that's why he had the followers rape Set. Not because of Osiris. He even says he is defying Osiris.
There is the rape of Set by the slave auctioneers, they jack him off and stick a dildo up his ass, but refuse to go all the way in because the virginity is meant for the customer. They were auctioneers "sampling their product", how "fine" it is without ruining it's value
I believe that's all the incest, rapes and loves so far (ch 140). Really don't know why or even HOW Set keeps getting raped this much?! He's supposedly the most powerful god aside from Osiris. Somehow Horus overpowers him? At least when he's demoted to demigod it makes sense that he can be overpowered by gods, but he's overpowered by humans?! Albeit using drugs...