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What a weird chapter

ԃҽҽρ October 11, 2023 12:23 am

This chapter felt like a "readers, I support trans people :'( and trans people? *PLEASE* don't kill yourself :'(((" while also creating the idea that whether a transwoman is pre or post op is important(it isnt). Fuck "it's realistic" it's just fucking bizarre imo. Woohoo trans rep in a manhwa but also the way they addressed it was completely unnecessary. Sincerely, a trans person

Responses
    ԃҽҽρ October 11, 2023 12:25 am

    Tl;dr it's just awkward to read, especially as a trans person. There are so many better ways to address this issue then introducing it with transphobic comments.

    ari October 11, 2023 1:07 pm

    The manga DID say that pre and post-op isn’t important — the guys looking at the two ignorant dudes were thinking this was all pointless and the blonde guy that slept with her said it didn’t matter to him.

    Also personally I like this manhwa’s approach where it’s honest about how even friendly well-meaning dudes can say some pretty ignorant stuff, rather than having a whole cast of socially aware guys. Storytelling-wise the topic it talks about isn’t any different from all the other issues the manhwa talks about, like the girl that liked pegging or the dad who is doing sex work for his daughter.

    ԃҽҽρ October 11, 2023 5:48 pm
    The manga DID say that pre and post-op isn’t important — the guys looking at the two ignorant dudes were thinking this was all pointless and the blonde guy that slept with her said it didn’t matter to him... ari

    I understand that but I think you're missing the point. It was unnecessary how it was portrayed. It would've been more interesting if it was used as a more active learning moment if the characters thinking "this is ridiculous and pointless" were more up and open about it, confrontational even. Rolling your eyes and not explaining to them why they're being weird and ignorant about trans people is not honest. It's passive storytelling. And assuming that your audience understands what is being talked about and understands fully why what they said was ignorant and stupid would be better then- "Oh well it didn't matter to the guy she had sex with and they were both wrong in trying to clock trans people just by looking at them. So clearly stereotypes are the wrong way to go". The whole point was that it was unnecessary to have these characters just be like "oh the boys are being boys again" and proceed to resolve it with the framing that it had just felt awkward and out of place to me. I appreciate the representation! I really do, but the author could've done better.
    I appreciate the response and push back though

    toilet terrorist October 18, 2023 10:56 pm

    Imagine plot twist the author is trans and tried to put their own rep in a casual way while lightly adressing transphobia

    KIYOSHI October 19, 2023 2:04 am

    we can never please you, can we

    notTexas October 19, 2023 3:25 am

    Idk. As a trans person, it got me really emotional, but not in a "bad" way. I appreciated the chapter.

    anabb October 19, 2023 10:11 am
    I understand that but I think you're missing the point. It was unnecessary how it was portrayed. It would've been more interesting if it was used as a more active learning moment if the characters thinking "thi... ԃҽҽρ

    1 mean, I think it’s a pretty good way of storytelling seeing as it’s show don’t tell. Personally, I like it better when an author doesn’t tell you in explicit words that “That wasn’t very cool guys because…” Instead it showed the audience the reality of what trans ppl hear day to day about themselves and proved how wrong it was. Ofc to each their own tho, this is just my take on it !!

    whatevermans October 19, 2023 10:37 am

    It was amazing in its own way actually that the girl turned out to be post-op bc a lot of ppl are freaked out about post-op trans bodies

    ԃҽҽρ October 21, 2023 5:26 pm
    we can never please you, can we KIYOSHI

    Do you understand that I am critiquing? I said multiple times that I appreciate the chapter and representation. But that I will not bypass poor treatment of trans characters simply because trans people exist in media for once.

    TheGayOne October 27, 2023 7:06 am
    Do you understand that I am critiquing? I said multiple times that I appreciate the chapter and representation. But that I will not bypass poor treatment of trans characters simply because trans people exist in... ԃҽҽρ

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