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I keep seeing this sub par Manwha everywhere…

Fayfay365 February 4, 2024 4:59 pm

I haven’t read this trash and I have no plans on doing so either. I don’t get why it’s so popular?? All I see is the mc getting abused while looking pathetic and sad constantly, where’s the appeal?? And the comments talkin about a “redemption” arc like yall cannot be serious. There’s nothing redeemable about that man?? The Mc needs to grow a goddamn spine. This manwha is srsly stinky and gross STOP MAKING TRASH POPULAR PLEASE!!

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    sueit47 February 4, 2024 5:17 pm

    then just dont read this.

    Morning Diamonds February 4, 2024 5:20 pm

    If you have not read it, you can't have an opinion about it. "I don't get why it's so poplar?" You have not read it. Jaekyung is redeemable. Why does your feedback mirror the haters of this story?
    Editors must find stories that have a proven market to generate revenue.


    And just saying ....by writing this comment you are helping it trend more. The more people comments and make topics, the more it trends and gets even more popular.


    Most here are here as hate readers. But don't trust the comments.

    Only the Fox God Knows February 4, 2024 5:23 pm

    Wdym this is popular? Can't you see what updated comments all about?
    At this point people just come back for the revenge arc, in which I doubt will happen.

    Morning Diamonds February 4, 2024 5:24 pm
    then just dont read this. sueit47

    maybe it should be "Then just don't comment here" Because they are helping what they are against. It is in the popular list because of all the topics and comments being made. Most of these comments if your read are from hate readers. If they stop commenting this could stop being in the popular list here. I am saying could because if they stop then fandom could start writing again. There are more in the fandom than haters.
    I am low-key thinking the hater readers are part of the fandom but afraid to admit they like Jaekyung or the story.

    Fayfay365 February 4, 2024 5:29 pm
    maybe it should be "Then just don't comment here" Because they are helping what they are against. It is in the popular list because of all the topics and comments being made. Most of these comments if your read... Morning Diamonds

    I see this Manwha on insta all the time and majority of the comments on the main feed are about this. So trust me I dont read it but I am a proud and avid hater of it!

    Fayfay365 February 4, 2024 5:29 pm
    If you have not read it, you can't have an opinion about it. "I don't get why it's so poplar?" You have not read it. Jaekyung is redeemable. Why does your feedback mirror the haters of this story? Editors must ... Morning Diamonds

    Lol!

    Fayfay365 February 4, 2024 5:30 pm
    then just dont read this. sueit47

    I don’t. But can’t I hate it regardless? ;(

    R Symptoms February 4, 2024 5:36 pm

    I am just waiting for the bottom to power up and be unbothered

    Akane February 4, 2024 6:02 pm

    Yeah he isn't even a decent human being

    suguru's toilet February 4, 2024 6:27 pm
    If you have not read it, you can't have an opinion about it. "I don't get why it's so poplar?" You have not read it. Jaekyung is redeemable. Why does your feedback mirror the haters of this story? Editors must ... Morning Diamonds

    How is he redeemable ?

    Morning Diamonds February 4, 2024 8:18 pm
    How is he redeemable ? suguru's toilet

    One thing you have to consider is she purposely making him look worse than he is. However, she has given hints to his real personality. Yes, he is toxic and has bad behaviors. His personality is not his behavior.
    In his behaviors has he killed Dan's family members? Has he beaten Dan like those loan sharks or worse? Did he confide Dan? You may think Jaekyung has raped Dan but if you understand the characters, the story, and the terms, Jaekyung has only sexually assaulted him and sometimes with sexual coercion. Has Jaekyung tied him up and savagely raped him? Has he choked him to he passed out?

    He paid off Dan's and Dan's grandma's debt. He allowed Dan to live with him. He has taken care of Dan many times. He had not left bruises on Dan.

    The worst he has is a bad temper, not able to handle his emotions, and sexually assaulting Dan. Chapter 34 he will regret it. When you understand not take what he says at face value, you will start to understand Jaekyung more. For when he said he hates flowers due to him being jealous and when his penthouse has plants and one has flowers, see 45 and 46.
    It would seem he has never been in love before and doesn't understand those feelings. He has to learn.

    He is reacting in a bad way due to anger issues and more.
    He does not know how to express his real feelings and hides them. Heesung says this.

    Let's take chapter 45.

    First, he is already injured.
    Second, he has a headache via having a hangover.
    Third, he's bombarded by unwanted expensive gifts that is invading his space.
    Fourth, he is confused about last night. This could be considered rape because he could not Consent to sex being drunk and Dan was willing to take advantage of that situation, being tipsy himself.
    Fifth, nothing is helping him get better.
    Sixth, he learns the reason Dan has been going out, sleeping when he should be working, and rubbing blood on him without noticing. It was for him. He has been worried and he learns all that was for him. It is probably something that has never happened to him. Someone so close to doing something so genuinely.
    He covered his emotions but anger and lashed out.
    sixth is a man-child and don't know how to handle that.
    Dan needs to teach him but he needs to learn other ways when angry about communicating like the ones that attack you for noticing something.
    He is a tsundere.

    To go deeper, he had an emotional conflict or internal struggle having that reaction to a gesture of kindness that was all for him. He is not responding in a way that aligns with his true intentions and burying his real feelings. This is causing misunderstanding and miscommunication. And again, how she is purposely writing this is causing people to misunderstand him.

    Now it seems we will get his side. Maybe people will start to understand him better than falling for the facade.


    All kinds of emotions pop up that he does not know how to deal with it while feeling like crap and he lashed out. Many people do this today, even on this page.

    It is what he knows but it is bad behavior that he needs to change.
    You have to remember, that some people will bully the ones they like/love. Someone on here explained the soda situation but I forgot what they said. I am looking for that. It is an athlete thing from what I remember but they went more in-depth. It was interesting getting that insight. I wished I kept it.

    He is a toxic man-child but yet, he is misunderstood and many want him to suffer or die without knowing anything about him. Are they redeemable? Wanting a character to suffer or die and they will harm anyone saying the opposite that talks to them. They can be redeemable and they are worse than Jaekyung because they are attacking real people to feel better about themselves and they may never change.

    Now, Jaekyung needs to stop his temper tantrums and learn to be better. He needs to treat Dan, himself, and others better. He is acting out fear and insecurity (possessiveness is due to insecurity (research), from chapter 34, it is deep-rooted.)


    many times, He is being disingenuous or insincere in his words but many readers are taking his words at face value. They are misunderstanding him. In addition, they are expecting a healthy relationship with clear communication instead of seeing the actual story. It, at the moment, is toxic and they are not boyfriends yet. They are in a transactional relationship that is now just breaking. Many readers think they are dating and want a romance. It is not there yet. Mr. Toxic has to learn a few things before they have a loving relationship. She already hinted they will be together.

    There are stories with semes that have done worse but don't receive the hate as Jaekyung does. Jaekyung is nothing compared to the real toxic semes.

    As humans, we are always changing, and sometimes for the worse but sometimes for the better. So for humans that have done worse than Jaekyung are they not redeemable?

    Bad behavior is not justified. We can forgive the person if they change for the better. ""Amazing Grace" lyrics are based on John Newton's experience of receiving God's grace and mercy, despite the terrible things he had done."
    John was an "English slave trader who became an Anglican minister, a hymn writer, and later a noted abolitionist, best known for his hymn “Amazing Grace.” His transformation from a faithless seaman to a man of deep faith is echoed in his work."

    His actions as the slave trader is never justifiable. However, he changed, and he is justifiable. Not the actions. How many people did John Newton cause to lose their freedom to be slaves for the rest of their lives? But how many people did he free from being slaves? How many people have helped over the years with what he wrote? Amazing Grace has influenced many people, even today when he is long gone. Did he redeem himself? It would appear so and what he did was worse than what Jaekyung had done. A man-child who can't control his feelings, emotional conflict, or internal struggle to where lashing out is what he does and some behaviors are wrong. But is mostly verbal and most of it is being disingenuous.

    If he is not redeemable then many in today's life are not redeemable. If you condemn him, you condemn maybe yourself and others. Many on this site are worse than him are you saying they are not redeemable when in fact they can change for the better? He is redeemable.
    If he is not redeemable to you, you have an unforgiven cold world where no one is redeemed, not even you or the OP (Fayfay365).
    Fayfay365 is being prejudiced and came here for attention. Fay has said they have not read the story and will not read it but hate it. They came here to get people to stop reading it but they came to stir up trouble due to their prejudice. I would never be proud to be calling myself a hater. It shows I let hate control me. Taking pride in hate and letting negativity play a significant role in their identity or mindset They are allowing hate to control them to hear their thoughts and actions could have harmful consequences for them and everyone around them. So being a hater and proudly saying it says they are here to cause trouble for them and everyone. They could be harming their own health. It will affect them if they continue on this path. They are trying to harm others too.
    It is important to give something or someone a chance before forming an opinion about it or them. Without backstory or Jaekyung's side, no one can form a solid opinion about him. You can with the hints she has given but many overlook them to spew hate on him because they don't understand him by falling for the facade.

    If someone handled a situation badly because they did not know how to deal with it or understand themselves, should they be unredeemable? There are kids with bad tempers and some worse than Jaekyung, are they unredeemable? Like are you really condemning him on his temper and him being disingenuous?

    Fayfay365 February 4, 2024 10:49 pm
    One thing you have to consider is she purposely making him look worse than he is. However, she has given hints to his real personality. Yes, he is toxic and has bad behaviors. His personality is not his behavi... Morning Diamonds

    Please how can you write a think piece for a rapist??! LOLOL touch grass AND get help

    Morning Diamonds February 4, 2024 11:12 pm
    Please how can you write a think piece for a rapist??! LOLOL touch grass AND get help Fayfay365

    Take your own advice since you are the one who needs it. You restort to lies and ad hominem fallacies.
    First, He is a sexual abuser. He is not a rapist. Educate yourself.
    Second "Touch grass and get help" are pathetic overused ad hominems on this page. It shows your immaturity and insecurities. Are you from gen Z?

    What using pathetic lame ad hominems means:

    Ad hominem: in other words, a personal attack, attacking the person instead of attacking the issue. an example of Ad hominem would be, "poisoning the well" which is a direct attack on the trustworthiness of the person making a statement instead of addressing the statement.

    Ad hominem refers to attacking the person making the argument rather than addressing the argument itself."

    They must not have a very good argument with the imposing and ad hominems.


    Thank you for sharing you know you are wrong and lost.
    if you are resorted to insults you know you lost.
    Take your own silly advice. What you did was sick and inappropriate and shows you can't handle a civil conversation or be an adult.

    R Symptoms February 4, 2024 11:20 pm
    One thing you have to consider is she purposely making him look worse than he is. However, she has given hints to his real personality. Yes, he is toxic and has bad behaviors. His personality is not his behavi... Morning Diamonds

    Idk what this is about.
    But I'm happy for you. Or sad that it happened.

    Morning Diamonds February 4, 2024 11:23 pm
    Idk what this is about.But I'm happy for you. Or sad that it happened. R Symptoms

    Childish. Why even reply? That means you don't care. It is shallow and unhealthy.

    Fayfay365 February 4, 2024 11:27 pm
    Take your own advice since you are the one who needs it. You restort to lies and ad hominem fallacies. First, He is a sexual abuser. He is not a rapist. Educate yourself.Second "Touch grass and get help" are pa... Morning Diamonds

    HAHA what a loser

    Morning Diamonds February 4, 2024 11:34 pm
    HAHA what a loser Fayfay365

    "When you judge others, you don't define them, you define yourself."

    You are talking about yourself.

    Only the Fox God Knows February 5, 2024 1:06 pm
    One thing you have to consider is she purposely making him look worse than he is. However, she has given hints to his real personality. Yes, he is toxic and has bad behaviors. His personality is not his behavi... Morning Diamonds

    There are some insane person who willing to write long ass paragraph just to defend shitty ass seme. R you one of them or I just meet another member of that group #-.-)

    Only the Fox God Knows February 5, 2024 1:11 pm
    "When you judge others, you don't define them, you define yourself."You are talking about yourself. Morning Diamonds

    Omg they also love to bring out unknown quotes like this.
    R u them?? But if so aren't we agreed to conclude our hateful battle by blocking each other, so why can I reply yours. God I again met the same species Σ(  ̄□ ̄||)

    Morning Diamonds February 5, 2024 2:48 pm
    There are some insane person who willing to write long ass paragraph just to defend shitty ass seme. R you one of them or I just meet another member of that group #-.-) Only the Fox God Knows

    If I understand correctly you exposed yourself as a hater or trolling going with a lie to playing a sick mind game.
    No one was literally defending the seme.
    Just because someone writes paragraphs, it doesn’t make them insane, and if they want to defend themselves or something it don’t make them insane either. What are you on about? It is gross.