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Why do Cain shippers not...

Mimim February 5, 2024 11:54 am

... have a problem with all the abusive and problematic stuff Cain has done? He stalked, sexually harassed a sleeping person, constantly lied, and engaged in dub-con sex (using someone's most vulnerable moment to push them into sleeping with him, fully knowing they're in love with someone else).

Like all 3 of them are honestly written so toxic, so why do they act like it's only Jooin and Yahwi? Idgi

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    CoolllyYo February 5, 2024 2:30 pm

    It probably and most likely has to do with the lesser evil. Cain never purposely hurt, humiliate nor made Jooin feel less of himself. It's probably why people like him despite some of his actions. All of them have flaws and have their gray areas but you can't help that most still like one with a bit more 'morals'.

    Between him and Jooin. Cain knew what he wanted so people like that he was more decisive (even out of the three). He never "strung" or gave Jooin false hope. (Ppl have been saying Jooin been doing that to both)
    But people calling Jooin toxic has been happening way before endgame from both teams equally. It's nothing new. He's always been hated for no reason.

    Now ppl still say that because his development of worth went away. And I seen all sides say that, even some of the winning team. Some preferred Jooin to stay single because it made sense to leave both toxicity.

    slutwi February 5, 2024 3:40 pm

    It's cause they are hypocrites lol.

    Jiwons Fountain February 5, 2024 8:18 pm

    Because they are weird and need sum to hate Yahwi and Jooin for because they ended up together and they're mad

    SweetToothh February 5, 2024 11:09 pm

    I'm not a Cain shipper but I've seen Cain fans acknowledging his behavior, although what seems to matter in this comparison between Yahwi and Cain is who made Jooin more happy. And I think we can all agree Yahwi hurt Jooin throughout most of the entire story and Yahwi did things way worse than Cain. It's honestly no wonder he's getting the most hate.

    Shut up susan February 6, 2024 8:14 am

    Because they actually can not read

    Heeheehaha February 6, 2024 9:15 am

    An example on why, would be that Cain most of the time apologizes right afterwards for his actions. While Yahwi and Jooin barely do until very late. Cain is able to realize his wrongs quickly and be expressive without giving false words unlike the other two. That could be why he isn't much hated here.
    Also, looking at the replies should give you a simple answer too. The first reply explains a perfect why and even a neutral reader sees it.
    Yet the rest, who I assume are all on the same team, aren't giving examples but throws and implies insults. This has to also do with how each team acts with other readers.

    SweetToothh February 6, 2024 10:10 am
    An example on why, would be that Cain most of the time apologizes right afterwards for his actions. While Yahwi and Jooin barely do until very late. Cain is able to realize his wrongs quickly and be expressive ... Heeheehaha

    Preach. Yahwi stans lack comprehension to get understand something so simple

    hatdiggitydog February 6, 2024 2:54 pm

    you must be ignorant if that's what you think dub-con is. i'm not even a cain shipper or a yahwi one either but don't go spouting big words you don't know the meaning of.

    Heeheehaha February 6, 2024 5:33 pm
    you must be ignorant if that's what you think dub-con is. i'm not even a cain shipper or a yahwi one either but don't go spouting big words you don't know the meaning of. hatdiggitydog

    Have to agree that's definitely not dub-con. Dub-con is when the consent is dubious, and when readers can't tell when a character involved is certain about whether they wants to participate. In this case Jooin did. Cain asked "if you don't want to, push me away" which Jooin didn't. That to readers told us Jooin gave consent. Then when asked again Jooin nodded in agreement. We readers saw Jooin answers from his actions. Nothing was dubious. We didn't see Jooin stay quiet and let Cain decided own his own. We saw Jooin indicate his answer.

    SweetToothh February 6, 2024 7:43 pm
    Have to agree that's definitely not dub-con. Dub-con is when the consent is dubious, and when readers can't tell when a character involved is certain about whether they wants to participate. In this case Jooin ... Heeheehaha

    Facts and facts only. Yahwi stans making up the craziest stuff to feed their narrative

    Ariest February 6, 2024 8:00 pm
    you must be ignorant if that's what you think dub-con is. i'm not even a cain shipper or a yahwi one either but don't go spouting big words you don't know the meaning of. hatdiggitydog

    How is sleeping with someone who's emotionally distraught and out of it much better than sleeping with someone who's drunk? A drunk person can also nod or not push someone away, but it's still considered taking advantage of someone if you sleep with them.

    hatdiggitydog February 6, 2024 8:23 pm
    How is sleeping with someone who's emotionally distraught and out of it much better than sleeping with someone who's drunk? A drunk person can also nod or not push someone away, but it's still considered taking... Ariest

    do you know the difference between being sad and being drunk??? there's your answer. being drunk means he was literally not in his right mind and under the influence, as well as barely even awake. cain never forced himself or told jooin let's fuck right now or else. at least he asked for consent and jooin was awake, sober, and in his right mind enough to say yes or no. are you actually comparing raping someone drunk to having sex with someone who's sad??? you need help.

    hatdiggitydog February 6, 2024 8:24 pm
    Have to agree that's definitely not dub-con. Dub-con is when the consent is dubious, and when readers can't tell when a character involved is certain about whether they wants to participate. In this case Jooin ... Heeheehaha

    literally i agree with everything you said. but yahwi stans just wanna make cain seem like he was as bad as yahwi so they start spouting bullshit.

    Ariest February 6, 2024 8:29 pm
    do you know the difference between being sad and being drunk??? there's your answer. being drunk means he was literally not in his right mind and under the influence, as well as barely even awake. cain never fo... hatdiggitydog

    Disagree. When someone is emotionally distraught to the point they're hysterically sobbing and slipping into a depressive mindset, they're NOT in their right mind either. Please look up emotional exploitation

    Shut up susan February 6, 2024 8:35 pm
    Disagree. When someone is emotionally distraught to the point they're hysterically sobbing and slipping into a depressive mindset, they're NOT in their right mind either. Please look up emotional exploitation Ariest

    Frfr cain is actually a sexual harasser who targets those who are vulnerable which also made cain stans sexual harasser apologists. Even jooin doesn't like his relationship wih cain cause it's unhealthy, he said it himself

    Ariest February 6, 2024 8:44 pm
    Frfr cain is actually a sexual harasser who targets those who are vulnerable which also made cain stans sexual harasser apologists. Even jooin doesn't like his relationship wih cain cause it's unhealthy, he sai... Shut up susan

    No but like do these people not know of the 4 types of sexual manipulation - verbal coercion (argumentative persuasion), physical force, financial coercion (blackmail/bribery) and EMOTIONAL MANIPULATION (exploiting someone's emotions).

    I thought they'd at least be educated on the issue of sexual abuse considering how much they like to talk about it smh

    Heeheehaha February 6, 2024 8:48 pm
    Frfr cain is actually a sexual harasser who targets those who are vulnerable which also made cain stans sexual harasser apologists. Even jooin doesn't like his relationship wih cain cause it's unhealthy, he sai... Shut up susan

    Jooin never said he didn't like their relationship. He mentioned it's unhealthy for one to sacrifice everything and throw away so much just for one person.

    Heeheehaha February 6, 2024 8:50 pm
    No but like do these people not know of the 4 types of sexual manipulation - verbal coercion (argumentative persuasion), physical force, financial coercion (blackmail/bribery) and EMOTIONAL MANIPULATION (exploi... Ariest

    This whole conversation started about dubcon. Whether it's emotional manipulation. What op mentioned is not dubcon.

    Ariest February 6, 2024 8:52 pm
    This whole conversation started about dubcon. Whether it's emotional manipulation. What op mentioned is not dubcon. Heeheehaha

    How is emotional manipulation not dub-con? It's certainly not fully con

    Heeheehaha February 6, 2024 9:03 pm
    How is emotional manipulation not dub-con? It's certainly not fully con Ariest

    Dubcon in fiction is only about being dubious to a sexual act. Jooin wasn't dubious he agreed. Emotional manipulation is it's own thing.