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You guys are crazy

Phaerille February 26, 2024 5:15 pm

Reading through these comments feels like a fever dream. Wdym you don't like that Kyla was smiling years after stabbing Alistair??? Man was LITERALLY keeping her hostage and looked like he was about to assault her what?????? She fully had every right to do whatever she wanted in that moment. How old are you guys? I'm a big fan of yandere, but I'm worried for y'all. Hoping that you guys are like 12 or something bc if you're an adult...

Also what's wrong with the genre switch?? Y'all shouting homophobia are the homophobic ones. Nobody's sexuality was changed. I think the brown haired guy only likes Kyla bc she reminds him of her brother, and gender doesn't seem to be important to Alistair. I'm not even sure if Kyla's brother had any attraction to men at all, it just seemed like he kept getting assaulted by them. You guys just have a fetish for gay men.

Also on a separate note (SPOILER) part of the charm of this story is that they're both kind of fucked up people. Kyla was neglective/ abusive to her brother in her other life and fully murdered the group of boys that bullied her brother with a sword. Say what you want, but in the world we live in, that's pretty bad. She still doesn't deserve everything she's being put through, but at least I feel like they're both majorly flawed. I love this story and I want an update so so bad *cries.

Responses
    Yellowcanary April 7, 2024 3:01 am

    I don’t think the people were shouting at this is homophobic are homophobic themselves I think that’s a copout. I think it’s weird to have a story where a woman enters a BL, and suddenly all the characters are fine with her instead of a man because of how that read has just wait until you find a woman who can fix you. Even if that’s not the case it still feels weird because if it was the opposite way around, where a man enters a GL and suddenly no character is a lesbian I would feel extremely uncomfortable reading. Because stories that attend to do this end up having NO gay characters at ALL which is insane

    EtherealBeauty May 17, 2024 9:10 am
    I don’t think the people were shouting at this is homophobic are homophobic themselves I think that’s a copout. I think it’s weird to have a story where a woman enters a BL, and suddenly all the character... Yellowcanary

    Not saying I disagree with you, but I'm pretty the reason it's like that is because people who read this genre of manhwa usually don't read it for the bl, unless they've specifically searched for an otome isekai that is bl centric.
    Me personally, I just don't think about since I'm more concerned with a story that can entertain me rather than whatever this is.

    Yellowcanary May 18, 2024 5:46 am
    Not saying I disagree with you, but I'm pretty the reason it's like that is because people who read this genre of manhwa usually don't read it for the bl, unless they've specifically searched for an otome iseka... EtherealBeauty

    I wanna say a good amount of people not all but a good amount of people search it specifically for BL. because I always see it talked about online and I’m always surprised at the numbers. I think it’s fair to read the story because you like the plot, but I just don’t agree with the first statement

    EtherealBeauty May 18, 2024 9:56 am
    I wanna say a good amount of people not all but a good amount of people search it specifically for BL. because I always see it talked about online and I’m always surprised at the numbers. I think it’s fair ... Yellowcanary

    Wait people actually look for otome isekai that mentions bl, see that it has a female protagonist, and still proceed to read it? I'm sure there is otome isekai out there that have bl moments, but I doubt they have a female protagonist. Now I'm kinda curious though

    Phaerille May 18, 2024 3:34 pm
    I don’t think the people were shouting at this is homophobic are homophobic themselves I think that’s a copout. I think it’s weird to have a story where a woman enters a BL, and suddenly all the character... Yellowcanary

    The homophobia I was talking about is probably more accurately described as biphobia. Just because a character is interested in a man at one point does not mean they have to be interested in just men forever. This idea is really common in the bl community and goes along with a lot of fetishization of gay men.

    And while I legitimately agree with your concerns especially for other stories with similar plots, this story really isnt the one to feel this way about. As I said in my original comment, it honestly barely seemed like any of the men ACTUALLY liked men in the og story and the ones that did seemed to be very fluid in their sexuality. Og ml liked mc because it was mc. Not necessarily because he was a man. To me this does not seem like he’s exclusively gay. Alistair also only seemed to be attracted to men out of a sense of power. He liked og ml for very similar reasons to why he likes Kyla; because he feels they understand him once again showing that the gender of his love interest is irrelevant. Lastly, Kylas brother never seemed to like men at all and was just constantly being sexually harassed and bullied.

    Idk, at the time I wrote this there was a TON of hate for the story, and in large part it felt like it was bc people didnt get the bl they wanted :/

    EtherealBeauty May 18, 2024 4:28 pm
    The homophobia I was talking about is probably more accurately described as biphobia. Just because a character is interested in a man at one point does not mean they have to be interested in just men forever. T... Phaerille

    Ah, that makes much more senses. To be honest it's both funny and frustrating when people forget that bisexuals exist. Being bisexual myself of course, I guess that's one of the bigger reasons why I never really saw a problem with otome isekais that take place in a bl world, that and one of the bigger points being that while yes, the world will follow the original plot to some degree, it's also not just some game or book with npc and role fulfilling characters. These are actual people with actual and complex emotions, thoughts, and actions. Hence why these manhws usually make it a point to show the mc trying to change the course of fate to the best of their abilities. Unless it's like "Kill the Villainess" of course.

    Yellowcanary May 21, 2024 2:32 am
    The homophobia I was talking about is probably more accurately described as biphobia. Just because a character is interested in a man at one point does not mean they have to be interested in just men forever. T... Phaerille

    I do think that’s completely fair and I think it’s a bit humorous, considering the fact that a lot of actual bl novels and manwha Half character is much like the younger brother who probably aren’t into men, but are put in positions and where they have to sleep with them. However, I still think that’s a bit weird because this copout is taken in a lot of stories with a similar plot. And bisexuality can be assumed or it could be a thing of the gender didn’t matter I just want you or supernatural force causing obsession, It’s almost always a character who had sexual relations with a man never happening again.

    Normally, what makes it worse is the narrative behind it because the man is almost happier with the woman that he ever was with the man. That’s not true due to the fact that the love interest is crazy and after the MC regardless But now that it’s more in line with heterosexuality it seen as less wrong Which you can see by some of the comments here which are a bit wild to say the least.

    Of course there has been times in reality in which a gay man falls in love with a woman and there are times in which a gay man discovers he’s really bisexual. However, I do think it’s a bit interesting that the supposed these worlds set in BL novels, not a single person actually like men outside of the heteronormativity

    Yellowcanary May 21, 2024 2:38 am
    Wait people actually look for otome isekai that mentions bl, see that it has a female protagonist, and still proceed to read it? I'm sure there is otome isekai out there that have bl moments, but I doubt they h... EtherealBeauty

    They do actually really interesting and people actually want stories like it. Gender of the main character in a situation like this it’s actually really interesting because if it’s a male character, he’s directly going to be involved in the relationships.

    However, it is a female character, depending on the setting either she’s going to turn all the gay men straight and end up with one of them, but even then, there is still a chance of the losers (for lack of a better word) turning to each other. In situations where there’s a female lead is also a bit more comedic due to the fact that she doesn’t want to get involved in changing the plot much like other stories, but she thinks she is safe and not changing the plot because she’s around came in which often isn’t the case. When the main character is a man, it usually tends to be more of it a straight man panic with gayness.

    Stories like this is actually very interesting and how they choose to discuss sexuality, which is one of the reasons why “I fell in love with the villainess” is so fascinated which is why I find them interesting other people just like homosexuality of it all and who am I to judge?

    EtherealBeauty May 21, 2024 4:20 am
    They do actually really interesting and people actually want stories like it. Gender of the main character in a situation like this it’s actually really interesting because if it’s a male character, he’s ... Yellowcanary

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