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TiredTM March 13, 2024 9:52 pm

yall understand how problematic the whole plot premise is, right??? i know the age of consent is 16 in Japan, but the ML is in his literal 60s. As someone who is way older than 16, everyone is in the wrong here jfc.

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    Scar April 10, 2024 4:21 am

    From my understanding she was the estate for quite a while before anything sexal even occurred and they even have a panel showing that she changed since she left the priminister SO I belive they are hinting at she is at least if not over 18 while the age difference is exstream it's not a child fiddler plot

    TiredTM April 10, 2024 4:43 am
    From my understanding she was the estate for quite a while before anything sexal even occurred and they even have a panel showing that she changed since she left the priminister SO I belive they are hinting at ... Scar

    Ok, let's say she's technically "legal." However, that would still make the male lead greasy because why would you diddle anyone who barely made it to adulthood and has way less life experience/intellectual skills than you? You'd technically be dating a child cause there's a huge gap between both of yall's knowledge.

    In other words, I view this problematic age gap as like a college student dating a fifth grader.

    effa April 11, 2024 2:02 pm
    Ok, let's say she's technically "legal." However, that would still make the male lead greasy because why would you diddle anyone who barely made it to adulthood and has way less life experience/intellectual ski... TiredTM

    If you think about it, Inuyasha is the same thing. But we don't think about it because inuyasha looks young. Bro's 100+ and Kagome is a school girl.

    So really. Fantasy is just fantasy. We don't read Killing Stalking because we want to emulate it. Its better that ppl sort through these ideas on 2D paper and a bunch of lines rather than replicate that in real life.

    effa April 11, 2024 2:06 pm
    Ok, let's say she's technically "legal." However, that would still make the male lead greasy because why would you diddle anyone who barely made it to adulthood and has way less life experience/intellectual ski... TiredTM

    Same for Edward and Bella from twilight. Ppl are going to have different imaginations and pen it on paper. That's why we have age rating so that only ppl old enough to discern fiction from reality can read stuff like this. Shall we censor every porn on hanime sites just cos they have problematic subject matter? Shall we get rid of Killing Stalking just cos it has problematic themes? Shall we get rid of the BLs and isekais you read cos they have problematic themes?

    TiredTM April 11, 2024 6:14 pm
    Same for Edward and Bella from twilight. Ppl are going to have different imaginations and pen it on paper. That's why we have age rating so that only ppl old enough to discern fiction from reality can read stuf... effa

    Bro, take a breathe and chill. Nobody said anything about going all Fahrenheit 451 - I'm pointing out that the themes in this stories are gross and quite frankly, unnecessary. *That* you don't have any rebuttal for.

    Your point on age ratings are moot because many, if not most, manga sites don't have that stuff. And do you really think a 13 year old reading a labeled 19+ novel really gives a crap about the rating or what it means?

    You also don't address the fact that reading these sort of stories can 100% influence the readers into skewing what they believe the norm is, especially when they're young. We all know that the demographic that consumes this sort of content are teens.

    My criticism is that the author could have tweaked the details in here and still be able to write an entertaining story without throwing in rape attempts, virginity glorification for youth of all things, and gi-hugic age gaps.

    effa April 11, 2024 6:53 pm
    Bro, take a breathe and chill. Nobody said anything about going all Fahrenheit 451 - I'm pointing out that the themes in this stories are gross and quite frankly, unnecessary. *That* you don't have any rebuttal... TiredTM

    sis you clearly have not read enough to realise that people will write what they want to write. rule 34 exists for a reason. You are clearly too righteous in your belief. And no, reading cannot 100% influence the reader. Mangago is full of rapey, toxic BLs and straight romances. I am very sure the vast majority of us did not turn out to become rapists.

    And contrary to your unresearched claims that these works influence you for the worse, studies have shown that media like these provide a mental and physical outlet for some people so that they do not seek or replicate their imagination in real life and harm real people. They deter crime.

    "Contrary to what many people believe, recent research shows that moderate pornography consumption does not make users more aggressive, promote sexism or harm relationships. If anything, some researchers suggest, exposure to pornography might make some people less likely to commit sexual crimes." - The scientific american

    I'm amused because i used to such a keyboard warrior like you, being so righteous against things like this. But then i grew up and researched. I also read toxic shit and still could tell right from wrong.

    So I do not give a shit about the age gap. Its probably the author's twisted brainworm that they just wanted to write about. If its a real age gap couple then thats a different thing. thats a real girl getting groomed. But this is fiction. Sometimes we just want to see messed up shit in 2D form and not think about it.

    There's worse things out there on six digit sites that 13 year olds with no parental supervision will have easy access to anyway. And if there's parental supervision, they won't be here in mangago in the first place. Don't blame the content on the internet. Blame the parental supervsion.

    effa April 11, 2024 6:54 pm
    Bro, take a breathe and chill. Nobody said anything about going all Fahrenheit 451 - I'm pointing out that the themes in this stories are gross and quite frankly, unnecessary. *That* you don't have any rebuttal... TiredTM

    I never said it wasn't messed up. I said its okay to write and read about messed up shit. This concept isn't new

    effa April 11, 2024 6:57 pm
    Bro, take a breathe and chill. Nobody said anything about going all Fahrenheit 451 - I'm pointing out that the themes in this stories are gross and quite frankly, unnecessary. *That* you don't have any rebuttal... TiredTM

    also in hindsight its not even that legally messed up. she was already past 18 in the plot because there was a time period between being summoned and when she was brought to the estate. Eh. Again, its a pass from me. Just another twisted media to be entertained by, guilt free cos its not a real 18-19

    TiredTM April 11, 2024 7:29 pm
    sis you clearly have not read enough to realise that people will write what they want to write. rule 34 exists for a reason. You are clearly too righteous in your belief. And no, reading cannot 100% influence t... effa

    I'm not reading all that. Idk why you're so triggered from me making a comment on how shitty the premise is and calling me "righteous" or a "keyboard warrior" lmao.

    Do you see the irony in writing 3 separate comments of multiple paragraphs? "Unresearched claims" is hilarious, I have a Masters in Sociology. Have a good day.

    effa April 13, 2024 9:36 am
    I'm not reading all that. Idk why you're so triggered from me making a comment on how shitty the premise is and calling me "righteous" or a "keyboard warrior" lmao. Do you see the irony in writing 3 separate co... TiredTM

    shhhh. keyboard warrior masters in sociology who don't even know its not the same as psychology. let the people enjoy the their mangas. It's not going to be the end of the world.

    effa April 13, 2024 9:40 am
    I'm not reading all that. Idk why you're so triggered from me making a comment on how shitty the premise is and calling me "righteous" or a "keyboard warrior" lmao. Do you see the irony in writing 3 separate co... TiredTM

    you claim to be a masters but can't even handle a little reading. You had a taste of your own medicine from me and look at you pedalling away. If I want to add to something, I'm going to make a new comment. Also have fun getting employment. good day