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Japanese sexy talk

Nyxmeow April 30, 2017 11:13 am

While I really appreciate a seme who gets fully naked for sex along with the uke, I do not get why so many mangaka seem to feel that "No, don't, stop" is normal sexy talk while getting it on. It just makes it sound rapey even when it's not. I like that this manga has quite a big focus on consent (although only regarding actual penetration) - Kaji repeatedly makes it clear that he won't put it in until Kobayakawa says he wants to, and Kobayakawa clearly gives consent before they DO go all the way. So then why is all the sex talk from him "Ah, please stop, don't, no, no"?? Is this a Japanese cultural difference? Is it supposed to imply embarrassment and thus make the uke more appealing? Is it meant to sound sexy?? I love the sex scenes in manga when it's all "Yes, that feels so good, do it more" etc., but they're not as common as I'd like (〜 ̄△ ̄)〜

Responses
    Amorim May 18, 2017 11:36 pm

    Perhaps it's a cultural Japanese thing? Idk

    yoyo May 21, 2017 1:14 pm

    I think because "iie~~!" sounds sexy to the ears during sex rather than "hai~~~~!" hahahaaaa (JUST KIDDING)

    RinRin July 9, 2017 6:27 am

    WHAT HAVE YOU DONE IS UNREVERSABLE.I TRIED IMAGINING IT ONCE,ONCE AND NOW I FUCKING HERE IT EVERYWHERE

    Misaki July 10, 2017 12:42 pm

    actually I like opposite one
    when uke says no stop it makes more exited

    yoyo July 10, 2017 4:58 pm
    actually I like opposite one when uke says no stop it makes more exited Misaki

    This!!! It makes me think that they feel it too much so they are asking the seme to stop for a break, but the seme don't give it a damn. Aaaaaaaaa ლ(´ڡ`ლ)

    yoyo July 10, 2017 4:59 pm
    WHAT HAVE YOU DONE IS UNREVERSABLE.I TRIED IMAGINING IT ONCE,ONCE AND NOW I FUCKING HERE IT EVERYWHERE RinRin

    Good luck (๑•ㅂ•)و✧

    Misaki July 10, 2017 5:23 pm
    This!!! It makes me think that they feel it too much so they are asking the seme to stop for a break, but the seme don't give it a damn. Aaaaaaaaa ლ(´ڡ`ლ) yoyo

    ooooo we think alikePlease recommend me some manga like them

    Nyxmeow August 4, 2017 2:20 pm
    This!!! It makes me think that they feel it too much so they are asking the seme to stop for a break, but the seme don't give it a damn. Aaaaaaaaa ლ(´ڡ`ლ) yoyo

    I get how you feel about that vibe, and I do like sex scenes where one is saying "Ahh, wait - ahh - no wait, I'm gonna... AAAAHHHNN!" especially if they act sulky about it afterwards because they didn't want to come yet! -- And *especially* especially if it's the seme saying it while the power uke rides him and won't stop for a break! ლ(´ڡ`ლ) ...But "wait" is different to "stop" for me, it's a turn off (for me) when they make it sound like they're being raped during perfectly sexy consensual sex. Thanks for telling me your perspective though! Maybe it seriously is supposed to be hot, from the mangaka's point of view - it's just not for me.

    Amberwaves August 29, 2017 7:02 am

    I've also wondered if there was something specific culturally Japanese about this. Especially considering their more "ideal types" gender roles, and that ukes are often the same as women. In Victorian England (which seems to have strongly influenced Japan) any woman who was a respectable lady wasn't suppose to want sex or really enjoy it, certainly not openly. And there are quite a few similarities between the two. So perhaps these protests are there to be the gender "virtuous" type ideal.

    yoyo August 29, 2017 7:19 am
    I've also wondered if there was something specific culturally Japanese about this. Especially considering their more "ideal types" gender roles, and that ukes are often the same as women. In Victorian England (... Amberwaves

    Sounds possible (=・ω・=)

    misaki August 30, 2017 10:42 am
    I get how you feel about that vibe, and I do like sex scenes where one is saying "Ahh, wait - ahh - no wait, I'm gonna... AAAAHHHNN!" especially if they act sulky about it afterwards because they didn't want to... Nyxmeow

    Well I guess it's nothing like cultural differences.
    It basically shows the resistance of uke coz he is shy. Although he is in love with kaji but he don't wanna do it coz of some insecurities and stuff.
    Also being shy and blushing uke looks cute. Well uke with open demands are good too. Most of the uke's are being portrayed shy and resistant to their sexual desires which actually makes the whole thing sexy.
    Just my POV......(づ ̄ ³ ̄)づ
    ٩(๑❛ᴗ❛๑)۶

    misaki August 30, 2017 10:45 am
    I think because "iie~~!" sounds sexy to the ears during sex rather than "hai~~~~!" hahahaaaa (JUST KIDDING) yoyo

    (≧∀≦)
    I guess you are right
    ヾ(❀╹◡╹)ノ~

    misaki August 30, 2017 10:53 am
    This!!! It makes me think that they feel it too much so they are asking the seme to stop for a break, but the seme don't give it a damn. Aaaaaaaaa ლ(´ڡ`ლ) yoyo

    (=・ω・=)
    I will recommend you a good manga then
    You might have already read that but you should try
    Kuroneko kareshi no amaekata
    It's a sequel and it's damn good and hot.
    This sql have 5-6 mangas
    1. Kuroneko kareshi no asobikata
    2. Kuroneko kareshi no amaekata
    3. Kuroneko kareshi no nakaseta
    4. Kuroneko kareshi no anshi kata
    5. Kuroneko kareshi no afurekata
    6. Kuroneko to kareshi to ouji
    7. Fukigen kareshi no nadamekata( side story)
    If you have already read then cool
    Otherwise try them
    You will like it
    (●'◡'●)ノ

    misaki August 30, 2017 10:57 am
    ooooo we think alikePlease recommend me some manga like them Misaki

    I recommended a sequel
    Look in the replies you will see a list of mangas
    Try them
    They are good (=・ω・=)

    yoyo August 31, 2017 4:34 pm
    (=・ω・=)I will recommend you a good manga thenYou might have already read that but you should tryKuroneko kareshi no amaekata It's a sequel and it's damn good and hot.This sql have 5-6 mangas 1. Kuroneko ka... misaki

    Awww I read all of them already ( ̄∇ ̄")
    However I will read them again because they are sexy af!!! Aww my Shingo ლ(´ڡ`ლ)

    Huppyvirus September 13, 2017 4:26 am

    I got curious with this too, but then i (me and my friends) to watcg a japanese Adult video and lo and behold the "no's and stop" of the women as well as the slipping "kimochi" here and there and in between "eii~~ and yanete"

    yoyo September 18, 2017 8:36 am
    I got curious with this too, but then i (me and my friends) to watcg a japanese Adult video and lo and behold the "no's and stop" of the women as well as the slipping "kimochi" here and there and in between "ei... Huppyvirus

    ehem, "kimochi", "iie~" "yamete/yamete kudasai". I wish you will start to remember it whenever you read an uke said "stop" "it feels good" and "no" and know what I feel whenever an uke trying to resist his seme.ლ(´ڡ`ლ)

    Nyxmeow September 18, 2017 9:24 am
    I've also wondered if there was something specific culturally Japanese about this. Especially considering their more "ideal types" gender roles, and that ukes are often the same as women. In Victorian England (... Amberwaves

    I think there's a lot about this that makes total sense. And you've actually hit on a big part of what depresses and irritates me about the whole "No, stop, no" uke sex talk. To be honest, I'm a huge fan of sekes and switch couples. But where assigned "roles" persist I like my ukes to be guys rather than thinly veiled women, for a start, and I like my ukes (and women, as a matter of fact) to have healthy, positive, robust sexual identities. A little embarrassment can of course be cute, and natural. But I really don't think I can appreciate the idea of shame and unwillingness being seen as normal and attractive (as in, no fetish or s/m element, that's just how "women" are supposed to be sexy).

    Nyxmeow September 18, 2017 9:36 am
    I got curious with this too, but then i (me and my friends) to watcg a japanese Adult video and lo and behold the "no's and stop" of the women as well as the slipping "kimochi" here and there and in between "ei... Huppyvirus

    Sounds like it really is a cultural thing. It's a bit disappointing (although I wouldn't be all that surprised) if yaoi manga takes its cues from hetero porn, to be honest, since porn isn't at all realistic at the best of times! And hetero porn is pretty much always aimed at turning on a straight male audience - although of course women watch and enjoy it too, and arguably internalise the way men want sex to be portrayed as their idea of "sexy". But it seems like there's even a difference there too, since women in English-language porn don't usually talk like that. This is all very interesting! (๑•ㅂ•)و✧

    Huppyvirus September 18, 2017 7:48 pm
    Sounds like it really is a cultural thing. It's a bit disappointing (although I wouldn't be all that surprised) if yaoi manga takes its cues from hetero porn, to be honest, since porn isn't at all realistic at ... Nyxmeow

    In english hetero porn unless ofcourse if the scipt tells otherwise all i hear is "yeah yeah and more moans" while japanese hetero porn have this element of "no means more" (omg) even rape like scripts are very predominant in JAVs. I think it's the thought of shattering ones innocence and transforming them from reserved/shy to have momentary sex driven boldness. Maybe because the thought of having the person you're doing on bed with is becoming not him/herself is egotistically satisfying lmao