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I like the story but I def think there's a lack of acknowledgement about the very obvious ...

lulu July 9, 2025 12:41 pm

I like the story but I def think there's a lack of acknowledgement about the very obvious orientalism of middle eastern and romani culture portrayed in this manhwa. Yes it's racist, even if the kurkans are portrayed as good and "superior," even. That portrayal doesn't cancel out the racism. It's like saying african americans are naturally more athletic (I'm not african american, but this is what I've read about, so please correct me if I'm wrong). It's a compliment, right? Shouldn't be racist, right? Well, it's still racist. And the stereotype has been used to harm african americans from the conception of the usa all the way up until today.

I understand that the author portrays the kurkans' character as much more than their appearance, but you can't say that the depth of character and portrayal of kurkans as the good guys somehow "makes up for" the blatant stereotyping (which is racist!) of middle eastern and romani culture.

Also, doing the classic switcharoo of "but what if it was the estians were portrayed as the good guys and the kurkans were portrayed as the bad guys? That's more racist" is so tone deaf because the cultures they represent carry different weight.

I appreciate the author's inclusion of more dark-skinned characters. I appreciate the diversity of body types. I appreciate the blatant anti-racism message that the author is trying to portray. But there are so many better ways to get this message across without stereotyping.

I recommend reading critical comments from people who are actually from this misrepresented culture. And try to really listen to what they have to say.

Unpopular opinion but you are allowed to like something while also acknowledging that it has issues!

Responses
    Ichigo July 13, 2025 10:12 pm

    All you guys do is complain complain and complain. Its bad when they say bad things, also bad when they say good things and bad when they are portrayed as normal characters. Why the hell do you guys have to compare it with real life ppl!? Kurkans are lowkey human animal hybrids for gods sake and you are reading about freaking witches and sorcerers! Please just stop it with the author bashing just because theres dark skinned characters! How annoying

    Hqhaikyuu July 15, 2025 1:38 pm

    I hear you and I totally agree.

    HobisWife July 16, 2025 12:01 pm
    All you guys do is complain complain and complain. Its bad when they say bad things, also bad when they say good things and bad when they are portrayed as normal characters. Why the hell do you guys have to com... Ichigo

    Real as a black person I’m TIRED. People get mad at anything nowadays. I’m not saying I don’t call out racism when I see it but being upset about this is just being sensitive when there are so many other things going on in the world.

    Altermyego July 24, 2025 3:53 pm

    OH BROTHER

    Twips July 31, 2025 10:44 pm
    Real as a black person I’m TIRED. People get mad at anything nowadays. I’m not saying I don’t call out racism when I see it but being upset about this is just being sensitive when there are so many other ... HobisWife

    Calling a well thought out and frankly mild critique that you lack the ability to engage with as "sensitive" is so irresponsible. The person isnt even saying they're upset, just pointing put a flaw that is fair to call out. They enjoy the story as much as you do.

    Twips July 31, 2025 10:51 pm
    All you guys do is complain complain and complain. Its bad when they say bad things, also bad when they say good things and bad when they are portrayed as normal characters. Why the hell do you guys have to com... Ichigo

    Did you read this comment in its entirety or do you just lack reading comprehension skills? OP literally said the exact opposite of what you're claiming they did.

    1. They are not bashing the author. Where did they say something that insults the author? Point it out exactly because I think they're being very kind and complimented the author a plenty of times.

    2. OP isn't complaining about the existence of dark skinned characters, just noting how they could be executed in a better way without reinforcing stereotypes.

    Some of you take anything that doesn't exactly agree with you 100% and is SLIGHTLY constructive and call it hate or bashing. People are allowed to have deeper discussions about media they're engaging in and its way more interesting to see other than "omg i wanna have sex with him!!1!11!"