Her own trauma is no excuse for her tyranny.
I may have a greed with you but now she’s bringing in execution. She’s lost her right to a pity party
Speaking FACTS
None of it is for the sake of her child, it's literally just for her to feel better. I also don't subscribe to the idea of "Mothers (and by extension women) are inherently irrational and illogical".
Imagine getting a kid expelled from school because it sat next to your son when he had an allergic reaction. There's nothing understandable about that
Great point. It's not empathy or compassion or motherly love but a kind of narcissistic squeamishness.
i was with you until the Rashta comment. Let's not compare a literal slave to a Princess who has been cuddled her whole life
Nah Trashta was evil too. A sad past doesn't excuse present evil.
I'm sorry but what?? She was a slave who was pushed to extreme circumstances and was manipulated by nobles around her, an uneducated SLAVE who was not at fault for her situation?? Were we reading the same manhwa??
Yes. The difference is you think people can cause as much harm to anyone around them, including destabilizing a country, because they had bad circumstances and were corrupted by them, while I say you have to take responsibility for your life regardless of circumstances and that means responsibility for the harm you cause.
There were countless ways she could have handled her situation that didn't involve greed and psychopathy. She chose not to take those routes. That's on her.
You expect an uneducated person to be held responsible for destabilizing a country when Sovieshu is the emperor?? Rashta was a slave A LITERAL SLAVE BTW!! it isn't just some sad back stories, a slave who was owned by her owner before being bought by Sovieshu and then she was thrown into the world of politics when she couldn't even write her own name?? Are we deadass here?? Why are you hating on the slave who was manipulated by people around her?? It was just a bad decision overall by Sovieshu who bought her into the situation.. The only reason Navier had an issue with Rashta was because she was a slave.. reread your history books to understand why slavery is bad and hinder human's development.
So is Trashta a good person? Definitely not. Trashta is an evil person. It's not an excuse of her being uneducated to redeem her of not being an evil. Remember what she did to her maid? Or the countless suffering she inflict on the people who serve her? She always got a choice to become a better person but she didn't grab it. She got the sympathy of the highest man in the empire but she never use it to make the better of her.
I never said she was a good person. She was a person who was pushed to extreme circumstances and was pushed to power extremely fast, slave to empress in like a few months. She does not know how to wield her power properly, her actions are of her own but she literally become more paranoid and deceitful as the story continues. And everytime someone rises too quickly to power, they become abusive and her 'abusive tendency ' was just to show that Navier was such a 'good' person for the reader, of course they have to make Rasta a evil person, how else are we supposed to know that 'perfect' empress is better than the 'unruly' slave?
And your last sentence doesn't not make sense as Sovieshu continually dismiss Rashta's feeling making her place unstable, of course she is going to go crazy and start doing shit and she literally got manipulated by nobles around her who wants her to fall.. People's hatred for her does not make sense to me when Sovieshu is the one to blame bringing a Rashta and making her a concubine. Concubine were normalized in their time but Navier hated her because she was a slave. This story has a lot of classism underneath it, most people don't like to address it, Rashta was a person who was a victim of her circumstance. We were always meant to like Navier but hate on Rashta
When does Navier hated her? Did she bully her? It's Trashta inferiority complex that caused her to act against Navier. Lol Sovieshu dismiss her feelings? What do you want Sovieshu to put her in pedestal where she already receiving a lot of benefits just having a little bit of favor. Navier work her ass off in becoming an empress. Do you think she just become an empress because she got Sovieshu love? No she work her ass off but you just put all the blame in Sovieshu where it takes the two of of them for their downfall. Sovieshu with his pride and arrogance and Trashta with her inferiority complex and discontent and her cruelty to those who beneath her
Well good day to you! We've both different of opinion and I don't want to make it longer as it already be I'm gonna mute this comment.
Responsibility is not a zero sum game. If John hires Jack to kill Fred, both John and Jack are fully guilty of murder.
Likewise, Trashta had some awful circumstance, and Shitvestu was a terrible man, but absolutely none of that excuses her own evil actions and evil behavior. You are what you do. So if you do evil, you become evil. In fact, that's how it usually goes. Rarely are people born disposed to evil. It's usually circumstance after circumstance, a "series of yes" as Nefarious would have it. , that demonifies you.
Being a slave, former or otherwise, in no way absolves her of responsibility. It nuances it, but only so much that we may pity her as she receives her just punishment, instead of cheering for it. But the justice remains. Like a vampire's thrall. A series of seduced "yes"es got her there, but now, she is a thrall. And that is sad. And she must die.
You are acting like she was some adult with hard decisions she needed to make? She was a pregnant 17 year old slave who was bought by Sovieshu, you can't expect her to mature and wise all of sudden in few months after her marriage. The most life experience and education she had was that her face could be used and all she have to do is submit? And also she was age regressing through out the series.
You are just blaming Rashta for things she can't control, she was a terrible ruler because she was an uneducated person who was put into authority without much education. Then what happened to Sovieshu, he was the one who approved of her dumb ass decisions. We could blame Sovieshu the most but noooo we gotta blame the slave girl who manipulated everyone. Like what are we doing at this point? why do you even have so much hate for her? When Sovieshu, Navier and the ml(forgotten able ml) are canon slave owners/ don't care about slavery. If you want someone easy to blame, blame Rashta ofc
Again, responsibility is not a zero sum game. Shitvestu and his evil are his, Trashta is hers. She deserves pity, but unrepentant as she remained, she dug her own grave. There were countless opportunities to take to not end up the way she did. She chose not to take them.
Uh trashta may have been uneducated in the ways of the kingdom but she's not stupid. She made decisions that got people killed and then plays the victim card again and again. She had enough of a brain to get people on her side and use them.
Rashta is not a good person but she is not evil
Yes she is. Or at least, she became evil. Which was sad, tragic, and avoidable. But she became evil and died in a hell ultimately of her own making.
Did no one here understand what the former princess story as well as inner monologue was trying to portray? She's someone who's lost a person very dear to hear what makes it worse is the husband did it for them, which in most cases actually leads to overwhelming guilt. And with her husband gone the only thing she has of him and the only thing she can do to "atone for killing him" is to make sure their
child lives. No wonder she's letting her emotion take over. Just as some parents would, no matter how good a person is, if they're even the slightest reason your child would be in danger, of course you'd feel strongly about them even if it's nonsense. We as humans find things to blame to alleviate our own guilt.
It's obvious she's not a bad person but people out here making it out like she's 3 steps away from being trashta and it's like, do none of you understand what's being hand fed to you?