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people needs to read this before talking shit about taichi http://klwritesstuff.tumblr.co...

asdfghjk August 6, 2017 5:29 pm

people needs to read this before talking shit about taichi http://klwritesstuff.tumblr.com/post/158988848372/i-finally-decided-to-read-my-tankoubon-ver-of

for the ones that lazy to open the link it says

"I finally decided to read my tankoubon ver of Escape Journey vol 2. and discovered that theres entire scenes that aren’t present in the scanlated online version! Also some of the pages are out of order, which made it confusing to read. @__@ Suddenly everything that didnt make sense before makes perfect sense now, aka why Taichi wanted to have his distance from Naoto in the first place…!

edit: for those curious, whats missing is a scene where Taichi goes to Naotos house to meet him, only for him not to be home. Instead he talks with Nao’s mom, and shes worried about her son who doesnt have a gf. :( Obviously what she says must hit Taichi pretty hard for him to then reconsider whats best for Naoto (cough miscommunication amirite)

Also missing is Taichi looking into renting an apartment, only to find that there’s prejudice for 2 men to share an apt together and the man won’t rent to him."

Responses
    Power bottom August 7, 2017 2:14 am

    I want to see those mising pages !!!

    Turbo August 8, 2017 3:52 am

    Can you please give me those missing pages? This manga was haunting me. Seriously, I was sulking for the a week. It's ridiculous, I know but it's the truth. PLEASE..........PLEASE.(づ ̄ ³ ̄)づ

    asdfghjk August 8, 2017 9:33 am
    Can you please give me those missing pages? This manga was haunting me. Seriously, I was sulking for the a week. It's ridiculous, I know but it's the truth. PLEASE..........PLEASE.(づ ̄ ³ ̄)づ Turbo

    hi I'm sorry but I don't have the link for those panels, there was one who posted one on the tag but didn't saved so if you want try to check out yourself I'm sorry

    アヒル(*≧∀≦*) August 10, 2017 9:43 pm

    I feel so bothered knowing that some scenes are left out, like, what if more scenes get left out but noone says anything about it so youre just there, confused af

    Lint August 14, 2017 4:28 am

    What you're misunderstanding and what that post doesn't quite explain is that there are usually differences between the magazine and tank copies. The scanlator did not purposely leave off any pages, they're using the magazine scans, which are released by issue. After so many chapters have been released, a tankoban is then compiled and the manga-ka often takes more time to go back and revise/edit their chapters, often adding more extras and sometimes adding more scenes. In this case, Ogeretsu sensei obviously understood that Taichi's reasoning didn't quite gel with readers, so she probably went back and added that mother/Taichi scene, as well as the apartment scene. She's actually done it with volume 2, where I remember she added another page to a chapter in the tank version.

    I don't know about pages being out of order since everything I've seen seems to be correct, so I'm not quite sure what she's talking about there. However, I am surprised that she can read Japanese manga and didn't know that there are often changes made in the tankobon versions.

    That's also why some scanlators will hold off scanlating until they get the tanko version, because it tends to be more "complete." Some of the better scanlation groups will buy the tank version to get omakes/extras despite having already scanlated the earlier chapters from the magazines. So, would you rather get the chapters as they're being released and miss out on those pages or would you rather wait six months to a year after enough chapters have been released to get the tank version? Knowing my fellow brethren, I bet most people would vote the former. Just putting this out there because it's a bit misleading of you and the other person to put that info out there without knowing and giving the full context between the magazine and tankobon versions.

    asdfghjk August 14, 2017 10:10 am
    What you're misunderstanding and what that post doesn't quite explain is that there are usually differences between the magazine and tank copies. The scanlator did not purposely leave off any pages, they're usi... Lint

    I didn't said scanlator left out some of pages purposely? there is always some extras that doesn't get translated, (not talking about this one) but this ones are kinda affect the plot, those panels gives more reasons for taichi's acts I don't know when ogeretsus drawed them but she did for a reason and people needs to know cause they're out here this is why I posted this link here and I don't think misleading since those panels aren't made up

    Lint August 14, 2017 10:55 pm
    I didn't said scanlator left out some of pages purposely? there is always some extras that doesn't get translated, (not talking about this one) but this ones are kinda affect the plot, those panels gives more r... asdfghjk

    So exactly who were you accusing of leaving out the pages, might I ask? If not the scanlators, do you mean the magazine editors, the manga-ka herself? The way you've worded your post implies that someone purposely "left" out pages when no such thing happened. Go back and re-read my post, manga-kas will often go back and revise chapters during the release of their tanks. In this case, Ogeretsu sensei ADDED pages, nothing got left out. Revisions happen for a number of reasons, but the obvious one in this case was to give clarity to Taichi's decision. Maybe the manga-ka was aware of reader complaints when it came to Taichi's decision to break up/shut out Nao, so she decided to go back and add more material to give credence to Taichi's decision. And I can verify that she does indeed do this because I had the magazine raws for the chapters in volume 2, then downloaded the tankobon raws for volume 2 and noticed that she had drawn an extra page for at least one chapter when I was doing a page by page comparison.

    Tankobons are printed AFTER the magazine publications, and all the scanlations that I'm aware of have been from the magazines. Therefore, what you're seeing are new additions - not something that was left out of the original print. Almost all manga-kas to some extent write and create additional material for a tankobon release - including revisions. I thought your statement was very misleading because you were implying that material was left out in some part of the process, which isn't the truth as I've explained.

    Anonymous August 14, 2017 11:12 pm

    no, they don't. taichi raped nao, that's a good enough reason for anyone to talk shit about him. just because he did something nice doesn't make that disappear does it? i don't think he is a bad guy, but he did something horrible out of pure anger and it makes me think he can do it any time he gets angry. and honestly nothing he does, no matter how good it is, can erase the fact he raped someone.

    blah August 14, 2017 11:32 pm
    no, they don't. taichi raped nao, that's a good enough reason for anyone to talk shit about him. just because he did something nice doesn't make that disappear does it? i don't think he is a bad guy, but he did... @Anonymous

    I have noticed that most of the time the audience forgives the seme for raping the uke. If you ask who is your favorite seme the top two answers that are always given are Maya (hidoku shinaide) and Asami (finder)both are rapists. I agree with you, one nice action does not make up for something like rape. In real life people wouldnt forgive a rapist for helping an old person cross the street, but they do in fictional stories

    asdfghjk August 14, 2017 11:44 pm
    no, they don't. taichi raped nao, that's a good enough reason for anyone to talk shit about him. just because he did something nice doesn't make that disappear does it? i don't think he is a bad guy, but he did... @Anonymous

    just tell me five popular bl that without rape in them?? it's in it almost every single bl we read and see them as a cute couple?? I don't see yall making a huge deal about but when it's about taichi yall forget all other when he is the one of the few actually regret what he did tho

    Anonymous August 14, 2017 11:55 pm
    just tell me five popular bl that without rape in them?? it's in it almost every single bl we read and see them as a cute couple?? I don't see yall making a huge deal about but when it's about taichi yall forge... asdfghjk

    you know, one reason i rarely comment here is because you are most likely not older than 15, because if you were you would not be excusing rape, fictional or non fictional.

    asdfghjk August 15, 2017 12:00 am
    So exactly who were you accusing of leaving out the pages, might I ask? If not the scanlators, do you mean the magazine editors, the manga-ka herself? The way you've worded your post implies that someone purpos... Lint

    what are you even talking about?? I didn't even mention anything about scanlators or anything else, no one of this wasn't in mind when I saw or posted this? I wasn't blaming anyone?? I saw those pages when I was looking at the tag on tumblr (and it has been months since) and forget it after days, I remember about those pages after I hear about new chapter and check out this page for the news and saw people hating on taichi, and felt like I should share this

    idc when or why those pages are drawn idc if they gets translated or not like I said before there is always some extras never gets translated it always happens the only reason I posted this link is I thought people should know and they would be interested nothing more?? it wasn't about scanlators or anyone else so why are you making it seem like so

    oh and I never said pages are "left out" I said "they're out here" which is something I meant to say pages are exist and nothing more

    asdfghjk August 15, 2017 12:11 am
    you know, one reason i rarely comment here is because you are most likely not older than 15, because if you were you would not be excusing rape, fictional or non fictional. @Anonymous

    I'm 21 years old, pretty much old enough to know the difference between fiction and reality and I'm not excusing rape, it's just that in those bls rape only seem like bad thing if it doesn't happens between main couples it's disgusting and wrong yes but it's what they are, it's what mangas are writers and we have no room to talk since it's their work

    asdfghjk August 15, 2017 12:14 am
    I'm 21 years old, pretty much old enough to know the difference between fiction and reality and I'm not excusing rape, it's just that in those bls rape only seem like bad thing if it doesn't happens between mai... asdfghjk

    I'm only pointing out this fact, rape between taichi and nao had no meaning, it was a way to damage their relationship to make it stronger since nao realized how much he loved taichi afterwards

    Anonymous August 15, 2017 12:24 am
    I'm only pointing out this fact, rape between taichi and nao had no meaning, it was a way to damage their relationship to make it stronger since nao realized how much he loved taichi afterwards asdfghjk

    oh, okay. so should we all go and rape someone we like so our relationship can grow stronger and they can realize how much they love us? what you are doing, is romanticizing rape.

    asdfghjk August 15, 2017 12:28 am
    oh, okay. so should we all go and rape someone we like so our relationship can grow stronger and they can realize how much they love us? what you are doing, is romanticizing rape. @Anonymous

    oh god you're really giving me headache right now where did I said this??? it's literally what happened IN THE MANGA that you're reading so you tell me you go and rape people?? I hope not my friend

    blah August 15, 2017 12:32 am
    just tell me five popular bl that without rape in them?? it's in it almost every single bl we read and see them as a cute couple?? I don't see yall making a huge deal about but when it's about taichi yall forge... asdfghjk

    Here are the first 5 that popped into my head mainly because I read them recently, I will have to search if you want more. Personally, I think they are all really solid mangas without needing to use rape as a way to develop a relationship.
    http://www.mangago.me/read-manga/life_senjou_no_bokura/
    http://www.mangago.me/read-manga/shinobeba_koi/
    http://www.mangago.me/read-manga/blue_sky_complex/
    http://www.mangago.me/read-manga/shiawase_gohan_maki_to_hanazawa/
    http://www.mangago.me/read-manga/tadaima_okaeri/

    also i am not trying to be argumentative you dont even have to answer back, but if you havent read any of these, then please enjoy

    asdfghjk August 15, 2017 12:44 am
    Here are the first 5 that popped into my head mainly because I read them recently, I will have to search if you want more. Personally, I think they are all really solid mangas without needing to use rape as a w... @blah

    I read all of this and they're pretty nice but when I said popular ones I mean the ones that sells good and that is popular in japan I'm sorry I should be more clear cause what I mean to day is if there is that much rape in bls cause sells for a reason I can't understand

    asdfghjk August 15, 2017 12:47 am
    Here are the first 5 that popped into my head mainly because I read them recently, I will have to search if you want more. Personally, I think they are all really solid mangas without needing to use rape as a w... @blah

    and I can tell you more bls without rape if you want cause I read pretty much every romance manga in this site and yeah I know rape, love triangle or anything like that aren't needed for drama or anything but they using it

    Lint August 15, 2017 5:22 am
    what are you even talking about?? I didn't even mention anything about scanlators or anything else, no one of this wasn't in mind when I saw or posted this? I wasn't blaming anyone?? I saw those pages when I wa... asdfghjk

    Ah, I see, I mixed up your response with another user. You both have similar icons, so I assumed that statement was from you. However, the other person's confusion is understandable given the way that tumblr post was worded. You should probably add a little clarification next time to clear up any misinformation that could be inferred from re-posting someone else's statements. Because as I read it, she didn't seem to understand the difference between magazine and tank scans or she didn't understand that the scanlators were using magazine scans.