Wait... so losing his mate and unborn child, then later on in that same time line losing Aeroc, then his first born resint8ng him and walking out on him. Then accidentally potentially killing his second born (and by the looks of it, his only Alpha) and living out the rest of his life in misery..... and you don't thing he suffered enough??
The Klopp who abused Aeroc what reborn in a DIFFERENT timeline according to the novel. He as all his memories of how he abused Aeroc and he's pretty much insane.
Basically, the Aeroc and Klopp were both reincarnated but in separate worlds/timelines.
Oh and according to the side stories, Rapiel/Raphael might not actually have been carrying Klopps child in the 1st timeline. He got drunk and had a one night stand with Marquis Wolflake but forgot or something.
never enough, not redeemed enough. he brought it upon himself.
Wow, I hope Rapiel will end up happily with Wolflake. I think he truly love him, unlike someone else who only saw him as a substitute.
Exactly!
Rapiel will end up wjth Wolflake
Same, I need that man to physically suffer.
“Oohh but he lived in regret and self-hatred after aeroc died” Man fuck that, I need to see him starving and living in a shack.
Rapiel x Wolflake cannon? yay, lol
yessssss
Not every payment has to be the same..... to me Kloff paid for his sins later on in the same time line. I love how yaoi readers always side with the Uke no matter what evil they have done just because they take on the "woman" roll.
I admit that I usually side with Semes, but we have to acknowledge when an individual does wrong they have to pay the price. And when this price happens to be greater than the original sin, so be it.... they started it first
I usually agree that people tend to baby ukes, but not in this situation.
Nobody is “siding” with the uke. It’s pretty much unanimous that what he did was wrong, regardless of his intentions. That said, what Kloff did was so horrific and blatantly evil that it understandably disgusts most people. Aeroc did pay the price...being tossed to the slums. What Kloff did was for his own satisfaction, not for Raphael. You cannot rape and impregnate someone on the basis of "grief".
You're correct, just not in the hypothetical last part. Raphael was carrying Kloff's child; nothing in the novel's side stories insinuated that he cheated. I'm pretty sure that rumor came from novelspoilers lol
Hello, I didn't say anything about Aeroc's payment was unfair, tho my heart broke seeing him suffer. He paid the high price, ok cus he did something bad. And protested against Kloff's payment has nothing to do with uke or seme's side. It's clearly not enough. I think you're the one on someone's side here. I'm okay with people pay the price higher for what they did but never lower, it's pmo. Kloff tormented Aeroc with psychological torture, physical abuse, grape him and indirectly led to him being gang-graped and starved...
All the thing you listed in the first reply comment about Kloff had to suffer, I can only agree with the last one. The first one ( lost Rapiel and son) was before all the thing he did to Aeroc so it's doesn't counted at the payment for what he did (cus he hasn't done anything to deserve paying). That was the pain he endured, and it led him down the path of revenge. And the rest of that except the last one (living in misery) were all the thing he brought upon himself. Who made Aeroc died? HIM. Why his first born hate him? HE made it. Why the black hair son were injured? HE hit him.
Even in the second lifetime we could see that he not really a good person. He's quick-tempered, sharp-tongued, and prone to violence (c38 39 43 44 49). He sees Rapiel as a replacement for Aeroc cus at that time he couldn't reach him. He killed all the men who touch his mate (Rapiel in the first timeline and Aeroc in the 2nd) but chose to torture Aeroc because deep down he loves Aeroc. He want Aeroc to suffer but also want to be near him, it's sicken me.
I love how you said he made aeroc die. Kloff often mentions that aeroc committed suicide, and how he can’t commit suicide because of his 6 sin. Like no dude, you psychologically tortured the guy, to the point where he wanted to be tortured to death.
If it wasn't for Aeroc causing the death of his mate and unborn child, no one really had to suffer. So the burden was on Aeroc to begin with..... he made his bed, it was only natural that he alone should lay in it
So why complain when people say Kloff should just “lie in the bed he made,” lol? This is purely an opinion on whether or not he got the punishment he deserved, so it’s kind of ironic. He tortured Aaeroc; people wanting the same done to him isn’t complicated, it's him "lying in the bed he made".
lol it was kloff giving mix signal, in the novel it was implied that he was attracted to aeroc so much he was unconsciously scenting him but because he was homophobic (alpha &alpha) he choose rapiel instead to pursue despite attracted and lusting aeroc.
Although im not saying what aeroc did was right but he was remorseful of what he did, mind you aeroc was not one to understand emotions but he was remorseful, he sincerely wants to redeem what he did by doing the same way how rapiel died but Kloff? Never once tried to redeem himself on the first timeline except that last chapter on the first timeline.
We are not discussing the novel, but the webtoons.
When will Kloff pay for his sins? Is there a lifetime that he will? He already made Aeroc pay for what Aeroc did but when will he pay for what he did with Aeroc? If living with trauma for a lifetime counted at paying then it wasn't nearly enough. I wish there's a lifetime that he'll have to endure continuous physical and mentally abuse. Damn!