Here we go all of a sudden y'all can tell what is SA but you can't called out su-ah abused on Juhyeok or his multiple sexual assault on Juhyeok tho.
Where r u reading this
On the official site
Uh projection much? I never said Juhyeok didn't get SA'd. My comment was abt Ch 14 so hence why I'm discussing what happened in Ch 14... JH has previously had to face unconsensual sexual acts at the hands of Suah as well. But as we can see in your comment, ppl will absolutely gloss over Suah being assaulted.
People look the other way when a top gets assaulted which I think is very indicative of how ppl treat male SA irl. If we cared about sexual assault period, people would be able to name SA instances in the whole story. Not just when it benefits your personal narrative of which character is better.
They both are male. What is crazy to me is how you want people to acknowledge su-ah was "sa" when these are the same people who look at Juhyeok being sexually assaulted and say "he is so mean to su-ah" LIKE?? Juhyeok SA and abuse is being gloss over by million of readers and y'all suddenly want to talk about sa all of a sudden?? Like is this not hypocritical rn?
who are you talking to bc ik it aint me.. i literally just acknowledged that SA happened to both of them, did i not? take your anger up against the JH-being-SA'd deniers instead?
everyone keeps saying they want readers who have a nuanced understanding of the story but when someone can see wrongs that BOTH characters have committed, which is how the author purposely wrote the story btw, no one can handle it....
and yes they're both male in this FICTIONAL story. I pointed out the parallels of this story to REAL LIFE in terms of how ppl treat male SA victims irl. Cishet men as well as gay men who top are often invalidated for their experiences, simply bc they top and therefore it's dismissed as "you can't possibly have been SA'd".
the official site! i just couldn't wait, i knew this chap was going to be full of angst (づ￣ ³￣)づ
I think you’re misunderstanding me. I’m not saying you personally denied that SA happened to both of them, and I’m not trying to attack you.
What I’m talking about is a larger pattern in the fandom. Juhyeok’s sexual assault and abuse gets minimized, joked about, or redirected into criticizing him as a person by a lot of readers. That reflects real-life victim blaming where people excuse abuse depending on who the victim is.
So when SA discussions mainly get brought up around Su-ah, it feels frustrating because Juhyeok’s experiences have already been ignored by so many readers. It’s not about dismissing Su-ah’s situation. SA is wrong regardless of who it happens to. I just want consistent acknowledgement and empathy for both of them instead of selective outrage depending on which character people prefer.
Juhyeok being SA’d isn’t treated like the elephant in the room? That’s honestly where a lot of my frustration comes from. It gets brushed aside, minimized, or turned into criticism of his behavior instead of being acknowledged as something serious so it rub me the wrong way when you say people will acknowledge su-ah SA when the chapter will drop people will completely lose all nuance and the fact that Su-ah has SA Juhyeok on multiple occasions will never be acknowledged instead this instance of Juhyeok desperation is gonna be weaponize against him. But whatever ig
im not misunderstanding anything. you came into my comment replies TWICE claiming that i don't acknowledge that juhyeok was SA'd. i responded accordingly. and now you're saying that it was just a general sentiment you had against other readers and that im misreading it as a personal response. dont think i cant see what youre trying to pull lol
i digress. i get that it's frustrating that there are a portion of readers who defend Su-ah down and act like he has done no wrong. yea they're annoying! but you also have to understand that theres a portion of readers defending juhyeok despite every bad decision he's made and they are ALSO the problem. moral of the story, someone drawing attention to SA in the story shouldn't immediately be met with "well let's ignore that and shift the convo". and giving suspicions that the ppl simply pointing out Suah's SA "can't tell" what SA actually is. like bro what..? i fear you are the suah-defender fan that you hate but reversed atp
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It's been half a day since the chap release and i have seen NO ONE talking abt Suah's SA. no one even wants to label it as SA. if anything, i can already see ppl dismissing it and saying "Suah deserves the mistreatment after what he's done to JH" (which is becoming a popular sentiment in the fandom). Which is why i wrote my original comment. as much as ppl point out that juhyeok's SA denial is bc he isn't seen as the perfect victim by readers (he isn't a prim, proper, feminine uke), some of *these same ppl* will turn around and deny Suah's SA bc he isn't seen as a perfect victim either!! (bc he's an alpha top with a masculine body). JH-defenders minimize Suah's experience and Suah-defenders minimize JH's. this rhetoric is doing BOTH sides a disservice.
also did you read the full chap at the time of commenting your first reply? bc that again feeds into the point i was making that ppl will be QUICK to IGNORE what happened to Suah. Even if they havent even read the full scene and saw how shocking it was!
I read the newest chap. Mark my words (SPOILER INCOMING) but readers will absolutely gloss over Su-ah being sexually assaulted by Juhyeok. I think a lot of people won't even label it as SA since he's an alpha. I'm calling it.