never agreed w someone so bad
Omg chill! It's not that deep... It's just porn wtf... If u want romance and any tipe of plot you shouldn't even approached something like this! And yea I'm one of the "brainwashed" just cause sometimes I enjoy straight porn?? Oh and I'm female btw. It's kinda rude to call someone "brainwashed" based on the tipe of PORN they enjoy. Don't like it? Don't read it, but don't shame people for their preference.. some of us use this shit to unwind after a long day. And your comment is really rude and judgemental
Cleo, I completely agree its sick he is literally raping those women they certainly didn't ask/want it and he is a stranger to them. I think it is a rape fantasy with supernatural trope. And I enjoy smut but lately it has become very disturbing increase in misogyny, rape and abuse. Literally every smut coming out now is the same with few nuance. And many on here make comments pretending to be women but that is a regular occurrence on the internet. And this is my personal criticism of many smut is they just be having sex with random strangers without protection. I mean a pregnancy would be the least of the worries what about STD'S? HIV? Herpes? Genital warts ect.. some ailments are life long with no cure.
@Mia809 I’m female too, have read all the chapters released, and still agree with Cleo lmao. “Don’t like, don’t read” is a very good thing to go by when reading, but Cleo is not wrong about how men are brainwashed by this shit. It is that deep. If someone, especially a young person, were to read this, what better would they know? “Oh, if I touch a woman without her consent, she will not care because in this pornhwa, all the women like being touched, even before they are asked.” It can be a preference, but it is unhealthy when you are unable to distinguish between good and bad, or fiction and reality. Of course, if you meet a woman who specifically gives you consent to touch you whenever you please, do whatever the fuck you want, as long as you didn’t pressure her to make that choice and she specifically says “you can touch me whenever you want”. I’m interested in this because I like the idea. I think Cleo is shaming the pornhwa more than men themselves (not saying that they aren’t being shamed at all), because *this* type of content is what makes many of them think the way they do. If you’re responding to me, include an emoji. I’m putting this here to make sure you’re reading my words. Again, I’m not saying that they can’t read it, but because many of them turn to this type of content because they can’t pull any women in the first place, they probably shouldn’t be, as it’s teaching them exactly the opposite of what they should be doing when acting towards women. You are not brainwashed just because you read straight porn. You ARE brainwashed if you read unhealthy porn (any kind, straight, gay, whatever) *AND* BELIEVE it is perfectly acceptable to perform acts found in the media without getting consent. If you would like to chat further on this we can continue right here in the comment or I can provide you with my Discord
I get what you're saying (emoji time), but I believe maybe naively, that first of all there are not really a lot of young impressionable boys READING at all especially pornhwa... They watch and learn from porn videos or worst hentais.... and of those you can find really disgusting shit. Secondly I don't disagree with the idea of fucked up man, but in this particular manghua I don't see anything that suggest that r*pe or violence against women is right or acceptable. I just see a dumb storyline with dumb and horny characters. If something that simple and absurd like this can give boys a bad idea... Well that means there is something inherently wrong in the society we're living. But again...I'm pretty confident that not many boys read, and that most of people here are women enjoying brainrott. That's at least my opinion(▰˘◡˘▰)
You say you don't see anything in this series that suggest rape? he us using supernatural means to have sex with women, they certainly didn't ask or want to have sex with him he is a stranger to them. Do you not see the parallels with an unknown person having control/access over your body without consent? that's rape. Have you ever seen a smut where there is a Futa or lady(femdom) who has supernatural objects to fuck a mans asshole? and she just be fucking random guys assholes while they at work, on transportation in university classes. And I definitely believe young men are on here reading which warps there perception of how to treat women and perpetuates misogyny in society that we all have to deal with, I mean just look at violence against women statistics its increasing. I have read a lot of smut and watch a lot of porn and I can tell you the difference between the two is that smut has increased in misogyny, violence against women, abuse on women all the stories are the same.
Ok no I'm sorry I don't see how a fantasy manghwa like this is problematic, where all the characters are basically sex maniacs. If the women in here were scared and he wasn't stopping because "they'll enjoy it eventually" than absolutely I wold agree with you. But here they are all so superficial and sex driven that I really can't comprehend how it could represent a real women. That's why I'm saying it's not that deep. There are literally a thousand TV series streaming everywhere where the main thing is "women like it rough and love the bad boys", TV shows where half naked real women throw themselves at man to seduce them with no dignity (eg too hot to handle, love island ecc). And none seem to care.. they're even glorified. And those are real people with nearly no self respect or worth. So yea i really don't believe a manghwa like this (I don't now any man that READS smut) could be a problem when we have promiscuity every where we turn. Oh and what about mega potacst. I would bet everything in my name that there are more boys watchin and following Andrew fucking Tate than boyd READING pornhwas in any form or shape. Those misogynistic fuckers don't read...they don't have enough brain cells to approach something like a fantasy smut. They mostly watch disgusting hentais at best or stick to porn where you sn easily select the "r*ape, hardcore" category. At least in the west, I'm pretty confident things look like this.
A woman would never call herself a “female” lmafao, it’s obvious you’re a chud of a man.. go get a life you insufferable sack of rotten potatoes, you’re an embarrassment to humankind.
The fact of the matter is, even if you think it’s stupid that they do, people will still read this and think this is how people act in real life. Now of course there’s worse things on the internet impressionable boys can be watching but that doesn’t mean we should ignore this! Your entire previous arguments have been trying to minimize the harmful narratives and tropes this manhwa presents by claiming it’s all just “obvious fiction” and not that deep. But this type of problem is a domino effect; if you don’t shame and criticize the people consuming or the person making it now, they’ll go onto read and desensitize themselves to something worse. I have an equal burning and passionate hatred for all mediums that objectify and mistreat women. your claim that because this isn’t the worst of the it, it shouldn't be criticized is one of the main reason why the points we are criticizing in the first place, are such a big and growing problem. “Give an inch and they take a mile”! if you start placing levels to which a type of something is bad when the reality is the entire thing is harmful.. people will keep consuming and creating terrible stories with the notion that “there is worse out there”. All of it should be looked down upon with not a shred of complacency and negotiation. Regardless of whether or not you think it’s light hearted the effects and consequences are still concrete. Idk why this point keeps flying over your head..
Ok I understand your point of view, at this point I suppose I don't see the problem cause of my experience with man around me? I feel misogyny especially from the older generations, but I don't know any man that reads smut, only women. That's probably why I think like that, but maybe it's cultural? I'm Italian, a man reading smut would be shamed by his peers, mistreating women is a big no no. There are obv exception but mostly that's the rule. I underestimated how it could be perceived somewhere else where there is a different reality. Anyway girl....I'm FEMALE!! Just look at my reading list there are more they 2000 gay romance bruh hahahah. Stop insulting me cause I have different opinion cause of different experiences!!! Plzzzz!!!
Why is it that all modern straight smuts revolve around an ugly ass man taking advantage of beautiful girls that the just as ugly, self insert, porn addicted author, writes to be absolutely fucking stupid to the world around them! Yknow what it’s my fault for not checking the title and just pressing it cus I thought the artstyle looked good but wtf!! Everytime I read and drop dogwash like this it’s always because these stupid fucking male authors who have never interacted with a woman other than their mom for more than a minute never know how to write women!! They make it so that they have no critical thinking skills, only have the most surface level brain rotting thoughts that are solely about sex or superficial nonsense, and just happen to be okay enough with the sexual harassment their facing to not get help?!? The one thing these male authors are always able to get right tho is projecting their disgusting fantasies onto their ugly ass main characters and perpetuating a harmful narrative. None of the men in these comments are criticizing this bs because they all think it’s okay to sexually harass a woman and that’s the problem w this hot shit. I’ve only skimmed up to the beginning of chapter 4, but seeing as how the ugly ass guy wasn’t even remorseful over the fact that he’s greatly inconveniencing the woman by making her loose sleep and embarrass herself in public is what makes this so deplorable. And to add on top of that the author with the writing skills of a chicken made it so that the woman isn’t the least bit freaked out, or panicked at the entirety of the situation?!? But don’t get me started on the idiot men with the lexile level of preschool childeren and critical thinking skills of crickets who are enjoying this shit and think it’s okay… like YALL are the problem!! And YES it IS that deep because yall fucktards are unable to distinguish fiction from reality and let fictional unrealistic scenarios shape your morality in the most negative way possible! Niggas will read this shit and then come out with the belief that it’s physically impossible to make a woman feel discomfort and fear when sexually harassing them which eventually turns into “its okay to prey and harass women cus they secretly like it”, shaping how yall view and treat women and women’s rights online and irl. Which for some reason is never a problem when women read fictional stories but always one for men?!? Like I don’t get it! Are men devolving backwards or do yall truly have some type of chronic illness that prevents your brain from developing past the age of 7 while making you highly susceptible to only be influenced by the most negative and harmful types of media?!? Alas, this was my reminder to mainly stick to reading queer stories… atleast with them, the authors know how to write, but even when they don’t, the readers are able to call them out on their bs. All these fucking porn addicted commenters saying this garbage is “peak” are brainwashed by their fantasies and fetishizations so much so that they have effectively blocked themselves from the ability to acquire even the slightest bit of media literacy… smh!!!