She’s the same author who wrote statistic beauty, and based off of her ex-boyfriend because she wished for him to die and get raped. So they’re not a very good person and they’re definitely mentally ill. Even if she didn’t say all that crap about her ex if anyone’s writing or drawing the most graphic rape scenes imaginable then no they’re not very normal.
Oh, well, ahem thats a bit strong.
She must have really hated her boyfriend.
omg did she say that?? what a fuck up
And to be fair, with how rampant misogyny is in Korea, many Korean women absolutely hate some men. I have done studies on it for essay and presentation. I feel like it may have come from that place, seeing how Minho is too…not that I condone it. I’m glad she didn’t take it out in real life, and took it out by drawing it (of course, still a bit scary that she based it off real person). They might be ill mentally, no denying there. I just try to refrain from diagnosing someone but there are clues.
Also, you reminded me of that story sadistic beauty BL side story. That was dark as hell. Poor Minho.
STOP SPREADING MISINFORMATION! This is NOT true!! That was all just rumors and the AUTHOR is NOT the same as Sadistic beauty, it's the same ARTIST, NOT AUTHOR!! LEARN the DIFFERENCE!!
I thought they were the same person, but it’s not just a rumor. This statistic beauty author did in fact say that about her ex-boyfriend and even the translator show proof of it. Either way like my point still stands if the artist only ever writes and actively only ever draws rape they’re definitely not normal and have some fetish.
For sure, if the only thing they constantly draw is explicit rape, there’s some underlying issues. I’ll leave it at underlying issues lol.
Fetish at best.
Thank you for the info.
No the artist is same but not the author
I like this work and I agree with you. People should be allowed to hate and dislike stuff, also to be honest as much as I love seeing juyeon face drawn this should have stayed as a novel, some things dont need adaptations.
I dont think this has to do with misogyny, cause violence towards gay males already happens inside patriarchy so female authors doing this are just perpetuating something that patriarchy endorses. It would make more sense to make a woman torturing the man here, cause male on male sexual violence is common in patriarchy speacially towards bottoms.
Oh no, of course it’s not the only factor.
I was specifically referring to the part where it’s said the author made this to take out anger (because of ex). With that specific context in mind. But you’re also right, male on male violence is rampant too, in and out of gay community.
Yep. The novel was already graphic enough.
Well I feel like she could have made a woman do it, would be more peak. This is just the average violence that exist in the yaoi genre. Male on male rape is already not taken seriously inside our society (no rape is actually). I see some people saying (not you ofc) that yaoi is a scape of women from patriarchy and I find it a bit curious cause yaoi plays extremely inside patriarchy rules of rape culture, heteronomativity and dehumanization of human relationships to a fetish for profit. Yaoi was never anti patriarchy in its history. Well that is why I stick to danmei.
Didn’t doona do it in sadistic beauty? It wasn’t brutal I think but it can be counted as rape, not that I remember much so don’t count on my words lol. Or you meant for this story specifically?
I think it’s because some just want to fetishize male on male.
And some authors see yaoi as ‘anti-patriarchal’ because it shifts violence and powering dynamics away from women and into male–male relationships, so it feels like an escape from real-world gender oppression even if the tropes are still fucked up. Yeah there’s heteronormativity, there is rape culture etc, except it’s not pointed or done towards women.
But it’s not a major factor.
Fetish is the biggest factor I think.
I mean more for this as this is a rape revenge and women are the main targets of rape. Seeing it as an escape cause it is male on male is a bit funny, cause patriarchy is the main source of male on male violence. Rape is literally used as a tool in the military and has been used for centuries towards other males. People think patriarchy is only misogyny and there is where their reading of this vast social oppression system fails. Just cause it is not towards women does not mean it is not rooted in patriarchy and this is what people do not seem to see. Patriarchy is not only violence towards women, but towards every single minority including queer men and inside it specially bottoms.
Patriarchy affects men and queer people too, you are right and yes male-on-male violence can still come from the same nasty system. I guess many think patriarchy = misogyny because the latter is the central part of it. But in the end it affects all. When people call yaoi an escape, they could mean it creates distance from their PERSONAL or major gender dynamics, not that it’s actually outside patriarchy. They aren’t fighting patriarchy then, it’s more of a short term satisfaction. Majority of the readers are women, so it may be personal rather than anti patriarchy or just a fetish.
I fear this is simply a patriarchy reflect cause women also consume a ton of hetero smut with rape. Interesting enough a lot of rape porn consumers are women.
Also people fail to understand what patriarchy really is. Patriarchy is the oldest form of oppression and different from misogyny patriarchy is also a social system where the only one allowed to thrive is the "father" or in our time the white cis het upper class men. So when women pretend queer men are not in it too I just know they are not informed enough. Yaoi is a anti censorship fetish based media, it never in its history intended to be anti misogyny, actually a lot of fujos have internalized misogyny behavior whenever a woman appears in the work they are reading.
Thank you for opening the lid of my rubbery brain and putting info in. Holy shit, maybe I live under a rock with a rock phone, but of all people I should have already known this.
But I focused too much on the misogyny factor.
And besides that, I think some women just don’t think of queer people like that, especially if they are men.
The moment they are seen a male, regardless of orientation, many will not acknowledge that they are victims too.
Well this one I have seen many times.
The woman appearing in stories, and when the author makes them the bad person. Internal misogyny sounds about right.
BIG WARNING: there is gang rape, rape, psychological abuse. These are some of the big themes here. I wish I had never found this, and like someone suggested a ‘block this story’ button. It would also help people from arguing about who can say this or that.
Everyone is allowed to express their thoughts and feelings over this, fiction or not, whether you knew prior about the warnings or not. There is something called reviews for a reason. Nobody should be restricted on how they feel or express that feeling. However, I draw the line at trying to diagnose author with mental or psychological problems. Or claiming readers who read this are rape apologists or something sick (I have seen this). I promise, I write equally indigestible stories as author (if not, worse) and I’m not the same as what I write. Let’s put that thinking away.