Question about Grayson’s brother Nathaniel

Novel reader here and I just finished Raiuc (Nathaniel’s book)

1. Chrissy never slept his way to the top lmao that’s bs and no he doesn’t turn into an omega and Nathaniel ensures that because of Chrissy’s childhood trauma

2. Nathaniel views pheromone parties as a way to get rid of his pheromones so that he doesn’t go insane .He stops going to then after meeting Chrissy because he catches feelings for him lmao
3. Their dynamic is Nathaniel will hurt anyone to protect Chrissy and Chrissy will hurt himself to protect others . They match each other’s freak too .

1. Yes Crissy is beta and he is quite like Ashley Juliet(the gamma grandfather). Damn he was also thinking of seducing Koi . And Nathaniel won't be turning him into omega. He is beta (unless Zig decided to change it).

2. Nathaniel does is as it's necessary for Alpha's to release pheromones. He don't give importance to emotions. He didn't show any repulsion when he was asked by Ashley to go to the pheromones party even when he was 10. He is actually very like Dominic. And include Josh with Dane too lol(they also needs to release pheromones as they are omegas but they were slut by choice)

3. Good slow burn, Nathaniel is also intresting character as well as Crissy is also quite Sassy. I quite like their dynamics (im a sucker for slow burns).

1. Firstly, Chrissy didn't sleep his way to the top. He is a Beta but he doesn't turn into an Omega cuz he doesn't want to and Nathaniel takes his precautions.

2. Nathaniel doesn't really put much meaning into pheromone sex party. He just sees it as an outlet for his pheromones and thinks a hole is a hole.

3. Nathaniel thinks the world is 'boring' and only Chrissy disobeys and rejects him constantly and he ends up getting aroused.

I saw the replies but had to jump in, especailly to defend my boy.

1. Chrissy is a beta. He does not sleep his way to the top. He works hard at his job. He is very much against corruption especially those who abuse the law because of their high status. He will even sacrifice himself to protect others.

2. Nathaniel engages in pheromone parties as a matter of course to release his pheromones. He has no qualms or aversions about it. P.s. the depiction of the pheromone party in this story is one of the most brutal and vile of the series.

3. Their dynamic is complex, violent, toxic, twisted. Slow burn to a deep emotional entanglement. Later on, co-dependent & protective of each other, especially Nathaniel towards Chrissy. In other stories, the siblings note that while Nathaniel is the most feared one, Chrissy is the only one who can stand up to him, defy him or subdue him.

1. Whoever told me that must have hated Chrissy to lie like that and I’m so glad about the beta turned omega thing being false. Will they adopt a kid or pets?

2. Same thing like Grayson then. Ooh Nathaniel fell first? If so I might have to read their story unless it’s ongoing. I prefer it completed.

3. Thats how I like it, tops protecting is how it should be in my book, solely focused on the partner. Also, how does Chrissy act towards Nathaniel? It seems like he would treat Nathaniel like Dane to Grayson, judging by the appearance (one image only I have seen of him). I feel like Josh is the most ‘less cold/harsh’ one towards his top //Chase. Pretty early on treats him nice despite Chase being a tsundere freak

Thank you for the response!

Hey I want to ask because it's been bothering since forever. Did (forgot his name blond top) actually gave his brother while in heat his family dog to rape?? I cant get over that and wong read stuff from the author ever again if its true i'd rather know now

The fact that he said he was ready to rape his own brother if in heat bothers me enough i cant grasp the idea that people call this monster romantic how wtf??

1. Ashley Juliet, trauma flashback. Chrissy was thinking of seducing Koi? how come? I assume Chrissy is very ambitious to get what he wants but didn’t sleep around/to the top? Just a bit?

2. 10 at that party is wild, um…no comment . I have a bit of clue but unsure of relying on what I heard. Josh and Dane had a threesome or group sex (probably everything) as tops. Any of omegas that idk weren’t tops before? I don’t mind either way. I forgot why, but the reason Dane tops only is because of some trauma?

3. Do you have a rank of top three favorite couple in zig? Where do you place Nathaniel and Chrissy? I personally like Grayson/Dane 1st place, Chase/Josh 2nd. Idk about the others since I haven’t read, only seen spoilers. My stomach always drop when I think about Ashley Juliet and Dominic’s story, I don’t like it, too sad, bitter, anything but happy.

1. I asked since I didn’t really know if I should believe. They probably hated Chrissy if they lied. It’s sweet that Nathaniel respects his choice. Someone said it’s related to a trauma or something rule of zig universe (like the horror story between Ashley J and Dominic).

2. Forget the party I’m more shocked he started at ten, jeez. Life starts as horror story young for dom alphas huh. I guess it helps to get used to it but eh…and so same mindset as Grayson about the sex then, I believe.

3. Huh this sounds similar to Grayson/Dane with the pairing dynamic, but interesting still. I will give this one a read after DMIYC. I can’t multi task read. I like to focus on one for a certain amount of time.

Thank youu

I heard it didn’t happen. He just lied so that Chase could be like “Oh since I fucked a dog it wouldn’t be scarier fucking a human”

To be honest he is romantic, he just does things inappropriately.
Yeah I was also disgusted by the rape line earlier, someone might be able to explain better. It’s one of the ‘If it has to be done, I will. But if not, I won’t because he’s my brother’, things like the rut can’t be controlled so that’s why I believe. Without dousing in pheromones it affects their brain, etc…

Shit idk. But I know I like Grayson a lot more than before. I read their novel right now and it’s gooood. Give it a try

Difference between men and women ig because i wouldn’t rape my brother even if it gave me brain damage (ik he is a psycho blablabla yes but he is either a black flag psycho ready to rape his brother or a romantic fool he can't be both) I wont be reading the novels though so i might never 'understand him and excuse him' like novel readers do. I'll still read for Dane my glorious cat lover. I didn’t finish KMIYC yet but I remember thinking kiss me liar's artist completely sucked (no hate) but this artist seems better (and KMIYC's is good too)

I better hope it's a lie still how could he tell his lil bro he raped a dog he is a horrible brother

I finished reading RAIYC yesterday and i really didn't read anything about him being thrown into an orgy at the age of ten.

But I read a comment saying he turned into an alpha at the age of 12

The novel was pretty intriguing but the sex part makes u want more and more
There's is a lot sexual tension but really less sex

Idk y no one talks about Nathaniel's ankle fetish

1. Chrissy didn't know who Koi Niles was and he was entirely Chrissy's type so he wanted to sleep with him. Just a fleeting thought which didn't take place anyways.
Chrissy didn't sleep his way to the top

2. Ig Dane tops cuz he never revealed the fact that he is an Omega and his physique simply gives everyone the impression that he is a top.(just a guess)

3.i would place Grayson/Dane 1st, Nathaniel/Chrissy 2nd and Chase/Josh 3rd. Ig I'm into morally questionable characters and happy-go-lucky personalities bawling..

1. Oh no, Crissy wasn't like Juliet, I like Crissy's character. My mistake I thought u are asking about how they were similar to Domnic and Juliet . As Nathaniel was as genius as Domnic and Crissy was also a prosecutor as Juliet and a not and omega. So I was saying it in that context. Ig it came of as something different. Whn he saw koi he felt like he is so his type so he wanted to sleep with him.

2. Nathaniel goin to orgy parties at 10 is mentioned in Ashley's story not in his own story and it didn't really bothered Nathaniel (there is a hint that he was also sending Grayson as well). And Josh and Dane never had threesomes together. They did have threesome but with different ppl not with eo.


3. My first is Grayson x Dane, 2nd Nathaniel x Crissy and 3rd Josh x Chase.
Im also liking Bliss's story, it's funny and Bliss is such a cutie dummy. Their dynamic is also good. But I'm waiting for it to complete. I might place them on 3rd place.

Ik it sounds very horrible and I will not try to change ur views or anything. But to understand this u really need to understand how Grayson's mind work. It's really hard to explain without examples but if you will continue this story there will be multiple times when u will notice how he make decisions (I hope they show that in manhwa).

Grayson has no judgement capability, no understanding of right and wrong, no understanding of emotions, he don't even have any words of his own. Think of him a a robo who only works on what data you give him. Since he was a child he has been going through lots of therapies and treatment. Not a single doctor has been left who hasn't treated Grayson but he couldn't be cured. So his father came up with an idea to make him copy everything so that he would at least be able to function as a member of society. He hired trainers who train actors to train Grayson. Evrything from his expressions to his statements are mostly taken from wht he has seen movies or irl in a similar situation. He doesn't realise his own abuse when he was a child. He was told tht these are punishment to correct you. So he endured evrything thinking it is the ryt thing. He was choked when he was 10 and he didn't even realised that too.

There comes the problem because he would take every thing as he has been told. His father was the one who always told him that they would rape their brother or omega father as Dom Alphas are all monsters. They won't see who is in front. He even sent Bliss away from all his brothers for this reason and was constantly trying to separate Koi from them as well. Chase also wanted Koi to cuddle him but Ashley never allowed that. So since he has always been told that he was saying the same thing to Chase. Since he has always been told that he would rape other if he won't extract Pheromones through sex, he applied that to chase as well. He was always told that Pheromones extraction is just a process and it has nothing to with sex so he applied that to chase as well because he didn't want to chase to rape others as well. So he tried everything to make chsw to sleep with omegas and at last he thought that of he would scare chase about dogs he would start having normal sex to extract pheromones because wht chase was doing was actually suicidal to him.

Also he just said that to convince Chase as for him he don't understand the severity and impact of words. But he would never do that to bliss. If you read Bliss's story, there bondig is very good. Bliss would always ask Grayson for help as he was always to ready to help anyone and also cs he was only unemployed one. Grayson would nag him a lot but is also protective of him.

Your comment does help his case im not gonna lie. Excited to see how the manhwa will play it out

Im CRINE GOT A FLASHBACK. N ppl think we are crazzzyyy for liking Grayson. Reasons that I personally came to like to Grayson:
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Since all the Alphas here are born with shitty personality and rude nature and somehow all of them are obsessed with their partners n don't give a damn about others..

Grayson was the only one who showed sympathy and kindness to other people beside Dane. None other Alphas of this universe did that. Tho that Alpha traits of not being considerate of others exists in him too which is common to all of them.

Grayson never had any kind of malice or hatred towards anyone and was always genuine about helping others.

Grayson never sexually assaulted anyone.

Grayson made the decision that none of the other Alphas from Kieth to Dominic to Chase could ever. That was the first decision he made by completely understanding the situation(i cried for 2 days).

Finally, Grayson was the only one among the brothers who made this shitty parents realise they have been so wrong all this time and that their parenting sucked hard. He made Koi stand against Ash for the first time.

Who else deserves to be the main character of the universe of not Grayson

That is so random hello
Ankle fetish? How did he get that? Does it explain