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junSuke July 17, 2026 11:25 am

I feel sad that Nain technically betrayed Amon by going behind back and sleeping with Gwen? But I might understand more if why that happened. Besides that, I feel most bitter that Nain apparently once loved Amon freely (without feeling scared?) or did someone lie to me?

The thought of someone who once loved you this much is now afraid of you and finds happiness in someone else is bittersweet.

Please give me full lore of those parts. Is what someone told me true?
Or was Nain always a victim?

And don’t get me wrong I’m glad Gwen is there. I just wished it became a throuple in a better way lol.

    fwopfwop July 17, 2026 4:55 pm

    Nain loved amon, but amon didnt (or tried to) understand nain or his humaness or what he wants thru human eyes and continues to interpret what nain wants and needs thru his dragon/ godly lens, hence nain have grown afraid, detached, dosnt love amon anymore.

    junSuke July 17, 2026 6:02 pm
    Nain loved amon, but amon didnt (or tried to) understand nain or his humaness or what he wants thru human eyes and continues to interpret what nain wants and needs thru his dragon/ godly lens, hence nain have ... fwopfwop

    Dang so Nain did love him at first, 500 or something years ago and due to lack of human love/understanding + memory being erased(?), Nain doesn’t love him anymore? Even till the end?

    I’d rather they not be together if that’s how it’ll be. But I heard Nain does love Amon, not the same kind of love as Amon but enough to feel affection? Bur with Gwen, it’s the 100% love he has been wanting and deserves. Both humans can understand each other.

    fwopfwop July 17, 2026 7:11 pm
    Dang so Nain did love him at first, 500 or something years ago and due to lack of human love/understanding + memory being erased(?), Nain doesn’t love him anymore? Even till the end? I’d rather they not be ... junSuke

    Its complicated. You are right that nain does feel some affection to amon, but its a complex mixture of love, respect, contempt, etc. esp since he isnt aware of the full extent of what amon and the followers have done to him (memory loss). Even he is comflicted. Its the confusion of he should love amon, but deep down there is something wrong that nain despises. For gwen, im not sure how deep that affection is, but its like nain finally meeting someone who understands or can understand him. Like a respite/ breath of fresh air against the suffocating followers and the indomitable god beside him.

    junSuke July 18, 2026 12:32 am
    Its complicated. You are right that nain does feel some affection to amon, but its a complex mixture of love, respect, contempt, etc. esp since he isnt aware of the full extent of what amon and the followers ha... fwopfwop

    Amon doesn’t understand humanity which Gwen does. And usually having things in common is where love is most at, which is probably why Nain couldn’t resist Gwen. It was a human love, not a human and literal deity/god, insane power dynamic issues. I can understand this. I just didn’t like how Nain and Gwen got together but hey it’s not sunshine rainbows

    Thanks so much for the response

junSuke July 16, 2026 7:55 am

I hated Suzuki for this but dang I actually feel bad for Norman lmao

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junSuke July 14, 2026 9:15 am

Looking for this Korean BL manhwa where I just remember:

• Bottom has brown hair, buff, tanned I think
• Top has light skin, black hair, a boss?
•Side character the top fucked in hotel: blue haired guy, light skin

I just remember the sex between top and side character in a hotel.

junSuke May 30, 2026 5:33 pm

Do I read the IF YOU CAN universe series by release date?
Is Roses and Champagne part of it? Probably not? I do know Kiss me Liar is one, Desire me if you can, etc..

Help!

    XiELanny May 30, 2026 5:44 pm

    Roses and champagne is not part of the kiss me if you can series.
    Read:
    1st: kiss me liar
    2nd: kiss me liar specials
    3rd: kiss me if you can
    4th: desire me if you can

    Ahjuicyyyyyy May 30, 2026 5:51 pm

    kiss me liar is trash i wouldn’t read it tbh,i tried gave up,i went straight to kiss me if you can

    argo mint May 30, 2026 5:55 pm

    Read by timeline in the stories, not by release. Some stories happen sooner despite being released later. You can search up the timeline and start from the parents to the children. R&C is the first work by Zig, so its not part of the series.

    seunghoe__ May 30, 2026 6:04 pm

    if you read novels , start with chase's parents' story , its called lick me if you can but it doesnt have a manhwa adaptation

    KimDokjaMySonMummyLovesYou May 30, 2026 6:11 pm
    kiss me liar is trash i wouldn’t read it tbh,i tried gave up,i went straight to kiss me if you can Ahjuicyyyyyy

    EXACTLY! Why people find it good is beyond me.
    I like toxic story but it needs a good chasing arc with a crying ml. But in this case, it was nothing. No Character development, no chasing arc and no a real face to face communication, NOTHING.

    gayrainbowprincess May 30, 2026 6:19 pm

    you don’t have to nor force yourself to. just pick what you like. for me, i just read kiss me if you can and desire me if you can. i could still understand without reading the rest.

    XiELanny May 30, 2026 6:21 pm
    Roses and champagne is not part of the kiss me if you can series.Read:1st: kiss me liar2nd: kiss me liar specials 3rd: kiss me if you can4th: desire me if you can XiELanny

    Kiss me liar may be trash but kiss me if you can makes up for it

    junSuke May 31, 2026 12:11 am

    I have questions, spoilers possibly mentioned.

    For Ashley and Koi story, what’s the reason Ashley waited at a station or something for ten years? For Koi? Why?

    And did Dane SA chase? I know he did to Grayson but someone said he SA’ed Chase Dane you shitt. Why did he?

    junSuke May 31, 2026 12:12 am
    if you read novels , start with chase's parents' story , its called lick me if you can but it doesnt have a manhwa adaptation seunghoe__

    Oh yeah I heard they were bad parents how come?

    I have questions, spoilers possibly mentioned.

    For Ashley and Koi story, what’s the reason Ashley waited at a station or something for ten years? For Koi? Why?

    And did Dane SA chase? I know he did to Grayson but someone said he SA’ed Chase Dane you shitt. Why did he?

    Anyone else can reply to this; doesn’t have to be detailed response. And thank you!

    argo mint May 31, 2026 4:34 am
    Oh yeah I heard they were bad parents how come?I have questions, spoilers possibly mentioned.For Ashley and Koi story, what’s the reason Ashley waited at a station or something for ten years? For Koi? Why?And... junSuke

    Koi wasn't necessarily a bad parent, Ashley lowkey was though. Basically since sll the children were dominant alphas they had an aversion to anyone but their mate— thus the children, especially Grayson's evil ass were all pretty cruel to Koi, with Grayson even playing a cruel prank on Koi once that almost resulted in him getting hurt. Because of that Ashley grew reallyyy protective of Koi and didn't allow them much contact.

    junSuke May 31, 2026 5:16 am
    Koi wasn't necessarily a bad parent, Ashley lowkey was though. Basically since sll the children were dominant alphas they had an aversion to anyone but their mate— thus the children, especially Grayson's evil... argo mint

    I read spoilers for the grandparents and Jezus….Chase is really the only ‘normal’ Miller. I think chase is my favorite. I don’t think I’ll ever accept the concept of aversion to anyone except mate. Isn’t that his dad? And I think Koi being too nice played a role in the lack of consequences but I wouldn’t know since I didn’t read the novel. Ashley chose a misguided path.

    I will try to understand. At first I thought it’s kind of refreshing and nice that the dom alphas are the more disadvantageous group, but I see it affects everyone including the dom omega/omega in general partners…ugh. How will Grayson, the guy who said it’s fine to fuck brother if no choice/dog, be when he and Dane have kids? Good lord.

    Thank you for the response by the way! I am currently reading Kiss me if You Can. I think Josh and Chase’s dynamic is my favorite so far. I love Dane but I feel bad he will get Grayson lol. I heard he puts Grayson in his place, and I love the thought of that. I’m just worried about Grayson’s perspectives on some things. I hope he gets rid of that toxic mentality, even a little.

    I don’t mind any spoilers.

    seunghoe__ May 31, 2026 8:58 am
    Oh yeah I heard they were bad parents how come?I have questions, spoilers possibly mentioned.For Ashley and Koi story, what’s the reason Ashley waited at a station or something for ten years? For Koi? Why?And... junSuke

    you see , i haven't completed novel yet but yeah i heard koi was not a bad parent just ash , and thats cz hes a dominant alpha and wanted his children to look like koi AND be omegas , which they didn't, so he didn't really bond with his kids . Plus as the other user said , all the kids were alphas so he grew protective of koi .
    I think the biggest reason would be ashley's own childhood...his dad was fucked up lmao so i kinda feel bad for him as well.
    Whatever you say abt them being bad parents , their teenage dynamic was so adorable and ash was really good to koi , so i do recommend.

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