I caaan't! They are too young to be doing that... And Gaku has experience from MIDDLE SCHO...

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I reallly am not hahahah

I sooo agree omg this is practically sa and while the story could have been on the cuter side, it just gives "SA" like yikes bro

Yep. Not cute. Because this story would be much better if they both know what they are doing and wanting it aaand be older to actually desire it. Not a childish wonder but young-adult desire. Innocent is one thing and being clueless is another. Thank you for the support I see a lot of people are not agreeing with me on this one

Right?? Like gaku could have just shown him about mastrubation, taught him thru media and things but instead it's that, which would have been like much better approach to the story rather than this whole sa
Also don't worry mate, the thing is I have been saed by my own classmate in a similar fashion so this story is just outright scary to me sad most people don't seem to understand the problem with this whole story is that A clueless kid got groomed by his own classmate, people tend to forget this fact that grooming can happen even in people of same age. Guess nobody is able to clock that </33

Yeeess! He has taken advantage of. This is literally grooming. It's the fact that he is not understanding the gravity of it, he doesn't know. Like a kid. You can not have someone's consent if they learn that by you literally doing it to them. It's not ok in many ways... I'm sorry for what you have been through. I have gone through similar things. She was couple years older than me. I don't associate myself with the incident. Because I simply didn't know. Both what was I doing and what is being done. I don't even remember well (aI was so so young) So it did not scar me but definitely not a pleasant memory. Because my boundaries were violated. She took advantage of my body and my child mind. None of that is should be taken lightly. Of course we can enjoy a little unlawfulness here and there because mangas are not bound by literal world rules. BUT romance has one and only sacred rule. Informed consent. It has to be given to be a romance. Otherwise it's not romance it's sa.

i think most people understand the problems from this story. it’s just not a big deal to them because it’s not real and most people can (hopefully!?) understand that not everything we see in media is morally right or appropriate.

high school is also a pretty normal time for teens to start getting curious about sexuality. i personally never did anything until i was 18, but that’s because i had a pretty good sex education (ironically) from the internet. if teens are exploring with fellow teens (obviously with consent) then it isn’t really a problem as long as they’re informed. in my experience, hormones are crazy and we know they’re going to do it anyway— better they do it with proper knowledge than treat sex like a taboo. that breeds more clueless teens who give into their desires with no preparation resulting in bad outcomes.

sorry that happened to you though.

haha it is kinda funny. out of everything in this site, this story is among the most innocent ones. let’s hope the OP doesn’t delve too deeply into the other stories here.

I understand why you think that. You’re talking about those exploratory phases in high school. I, on the other hand, am saying that this is clearly a matter of “informed consent.” Because the uke was learning that they were having sex while they were having sex.
And of course, we as readers know that “this isn’t real, come on.” What I mean is, I don’t enjoy this because… Yes, you can choose to ignore it, but some people (like me) don’t see from that lense. I already explained why I don't enjoy childs having sex so I will not explain why I don't enjoy it. It's not innocent just because characters are cute. But with this much controvercy I guess it’s a hard concept to grasp.

Again, i and op both are saying that the issue with the story is that uke didnt know anything about sex and even if the motive behind Gaku's act was to teach sex ed, there are different ways other than having sex to teach him about it. Yes its hormones. Kids do crazy stuff. I wont deny, but this is clearly a case of grooming and grooming can happen unintentionally too. The author didnt think it through before which is clear and very lazy of them.

I feel we forget that consent can only be given when the other party knows what exactly they are giving consent for. In this case, uke didht even know anything about sex when he gave consent thats the part thats important to note for in the story. Im nit saying anythinv about sex being taboo, but for me, the specific problem was uke not knowing anything about sex and still giving consent to seme for it, if thats understandable. We are not seeing the main issue of the story.

Like its fine if you enjoyed it, I didnt and I just felt the need to say it whats wrong with the story. I saw someone agreeing with me about it and I replied to their comment.

Some authors, just like in this manga, tread the line of fetishization when depicting the sexuality of young (really young) characters. For example, one character of the same age is sometimes depicted as older than they actually are, while another is depicted as younger. There are many examples like this. The uke, who comes across as quite endearing from a predator’s perspective, is subjected to actions that can only be described as grooming. I think that having read for a very long time or perhaps simply being an adult plays a role in recognizing these patterns. Because we know how these stories really end. It’s inevitable that this will be unsettling.

That’s why I don’t like the criticism that “there’s no need to take it so seriously.” Because if I don’t take it seriously, how can I possibly enjoy it? The work has to convince me of its sincerity for me to truly enjoy reading it. I know some readers skim through things, but I’ve always been a very deep reader, not just when it comes to manga, but also with movies and books. I believe we can only truly appreciate great works when we approach them with a critical and intellectual perspective.

I agree and the problem is that most of them have been desensitised too when such trends are shown again and again. Its not even a matter of kids atp because this is literally everywhere in media. Same age, but one looks younger and other looks older. Like yes, maybe some people have baby face but almost every age range of age part of media has it? Bffr? Its to a point honestly, that someone can only not take this seriously just because its not real. Yes some like me do read it to forget the tiresomeness of reality but at the very least it should play the part which can take away the tiresome when such stories just follow the usual pattern.

yes. i never said anything against your points on consent. i replied directly to two things ONLY:

1. your question on why seemingly no one seems to get the problem with the story, to which i said that most readers likely understand and see the lack of informed consent— they just don’t comment on it since it’s a fictional story.

2. OP’s focus on them being too young, to which i said that it’s normal for high schoolers to explore with their sexuality, GIVEN that they have mutual consent, since it’s a time of high hormones.

these were the only points in my response. i didn’t comment on anything else about the story (whether it was right or wrong or cute or not) because that isn’t my point.

You did call it innocent. Which it wasnt. The author did a terrible work in writing. Im not really going to discuss about this anymore lol
My only point was the story is not cuteor innocent, because the consent is an issue. Even if we like take apart the fact they ae "curious kids" it was still not right. And that's it.

Them being young is why the uke is so clueless and their boundaries are so blurry. If they were older he could have atleast use his logic more. Understand consent more and be more self observant. Them being young and the seme being knowledgeable AND teaching/doing things unlike the uke creates this whole conundrum. The uke is not really is "innocent". He is just a clueless child. Like 12-14? Being a child does that. It's not them exploring. It's the seme doing things to the uke. This is we are not thinking the same.

I guess I will not be explaining myself further either.