You know what sweetheart, everything is just about how each person perceives something and have their own opinion. To you and some, this may not have live up to ur expectations and to me and others it may have live up to our expectations.
While I do understand everyone has the right to criticize and also continue watching a show, it simply does not feel good to see continuous criticism in a space where likely most people want to have a positive air. And while some people do appreciate criticism, some people just do not and the amount who do not is likely more.
Dropping the show is totally UpTo u but if ur not enjoying it and keep expressing disappointment then it just feels weird to know ur still keeping up with it. (But I also do hate watch kinda stuff so not that I can't relate but at least I don't comment on it where people are clearly hyping)
Also lemme end with that I mean no hate or anything negative while I am writing this to u. Simply sharing my thoughts on it.
Exactly some of us love it and it lived up to our expectations
I'm one of them (=・ω・=)
100%
Me too ! (▰˘◡˘▰)
Yes, and ? Nobody said it doesn't live up to anyone's expectations. Obviously some people love the direction and that's fine.
That's not the point. The point is that people who criticize the direction are allowed to do so without being jumped on by fans who enjoy it. The issue isn't that you like it — it's that some people "can't seem to accept that others don't".
You enjoying the story doesn't cancel out someone else's criticism of it. Both can exist at the same time. The problem is not different opinions, it's the need to argue with people just because their opinion isn't positive.
Also yeah, back at you. If everything comes down to personal opinions and different interpretations, then that applies to criticism too.
And honestly, I don't think continuing to read a story while criticizing it is weird at all. Plenty of people keep up with stories because "they're invested in them, because they enjoyed earlier parts, or because they're hoping certain aspects improve". Criticism doesn't automatically mean someone hates the work. Wanting a positive atmosphere is understandable, but public comment sections aren't just for praise.
And it seems you're contradicting yourself a bit when you say everyone has the right to criticize, but then suggest criticism shouldn't be expressed because it creates a negative atmosphere. If people are free to talk about why they love the story, others are free to talk about why they think certain choices weakened it. That's part of discussing a work, not an attack on it, criticism isn't the same as hate.
So if everyone is entitled to their opinion, that has to include opinions that aren't positive too.
Anyway, no hate intended either, just pointing out that the issue was never different opinions existing — it was people who enjoy the current direction refusing to let others have their own.
No I am not saying criticism can't exist nor am I saying don't continue watching (I just said it was weird and weird things are totally fine).
I am just saying if u criticize or mention such aspects a few times in a row it just feels like u don't like the work (which is totally fine) just maybe don't use harsh words that make people misunderstand u (then again I am just suggesting so the rest is UpTo u). I also have small criticism on this work even though I love this so much but I just won't say it openly and rather discuss in a safe space (and maybe u can do that too) cuz I don't wanna make someone feel bad from my statement.
Also I do think if u didn't read the work on the legal platform then open ongoing criticism is too much (but u can always leave reviews on review platforms, it's just these comment sections can get very messy). And funny enough in legal platforms u will hardly stumble upon criticism or negative comments cuz I genuinely think people are there to enjoy the show for what it is and keep it peaceful.
While this might sound irrelevant but I think major of us are here to read something likable to distract ourselves from reality and so mostly we want something that would cheer up us so maybe we just want a comment section where we can have fun rather feel kinda sad from someones statement (but yes ur points are valid too and I am just sharing what I think hope I didn't offend u or come as rude).
Sorry I am not really good at organizing what I want to say, I know I am being wishful for wanting things to be on the peaceful side but me wanting so is also just an opinion and u are free to do what u want to(unfortunately I try to understand both sides perspectives and that's why my statements can be misunderstood as contradictory).
This has been going on for so long over things I never said, so I’ll just clarify a few points one last time, hopefully.
First, I never said criticism has to take over every comment section. My point was simply that criticism existing doesn’t mean someone hates the work or wants to ruin other people’s enjoyment.
Also, I’m not sure where the idea that I’m using “harsh words” came from. Criticizing certain writing choices, the direction of a story, or aspects of a work isn’t the same as attacking the work or the people who enjoy it. Disliking certain decisions doesn’t automatically mean someone has bad intentions. And I’m certain I didn’t do anything along those lines.
The part about not wanting to share your own criticisms because you don’t want someone to feel bad is also a different perspective than mine. ""Discussing a work’s flaws isn’t about making other readers feel good or bad — it’s about sharing opinions about the work itself"". People can disagree with criticism without needing to take it personally.
As for the legal platform point, I don’t really see how that relates to whether criticism is "valid". Where someone reads a work doesn’t determine "whether their thoughts about it are legitimate". Also, I do read most works through official platforms like Lezhin or Ridibooks, but I also participate in discussions here because these spaces allow people to talk more openly about different aspects of a work, or so I thought.
I understand that your intention is coming from wanting a peaceful space, and that’s completely valid. But having good intentions doesn’t change the point being discussed: a desire for positivity doesn’t make criticism less valid, and disagreement with a work shouldn’t automatically be interpreted as negativity toward the people enjoying it, or be treated as something that shouldn’t be expressed. Both appreciation and criticism can exist without either side being the “problem.”
And that was the whole point from the beginning: the issue was never people having different opinions. The issue was people jumping on others and shutting others down simply because their opinion wasn’t positive. A more open-minded approach would be understanding that liking a work doesn’t require everyone else to have the same reaction to it, and that criticism of something you enjoy isn’t automatically a personal attack.
Ok, I am sorry for misunderstanding
I don't think people are misunderstanding what the story is about, though. Most of us knew from chapter 1 that this wasn't going to be a healthy romance. A guy biting someone's tongue off isn't exactly subtle foreshadowing...
The criticism isn't that the story is dark or problematic. It's that being dark and problematic doesn't automatically make something interesting or "well-executed". You can portray obsession, coercion, and abuse while still developing a unique dynamic between the characters.
It's also obvious the author isn't romanticizing a lot of these moments and wants them to feel disturbing. The issue is that after the strong setup, the relationship started feeling less unique and more reliant on tropes that are already very common in BL with the huge power imbalance and all, plus the focus shifting from exploring the psychological tension and complexity of their relationship toward using escalation and shock as the only way to move the dynamic forward, at the expense of deeper exploration.
Basically, understanding what the story is trying to do and thinking it executes it well are two different things. Just because a story is dark, disturbing, or intentionally uncomfortable doesn't automatically make it compelling. And people criticizing how the story chooses to portray those themes, or feeling that the story didn't fully deliver on the potential of its premise, aren't necessarily misunderstanding it— we may simply think the execution didn't live up to the premise.