if people aren't listening here, what makes you think they'll listen better in a server?
pretty sure the person/people bringing up other romanticized/idealized problematic things in manhwa is merely trolling and engaging in "whataboutism". because people bring up their problems with those in comments all the time and are called overthinking moral police puritans and worse over it.
I understand that but it’s stupid asf tbh. Everyone knows this concept is bad no matter what context you put it in. I was trying to be nice bc I’m genuinely trying to understand if people are being serious but some are it’s so stupid. To make matters worse they’re using rape and shit like that in books like roses and champagne like they’re both not bad.

I think just need to make a server where both sides can understand each other’s pov. No arguing just a debate between this whole situation. Some people saying that romanticizing the mafia is bad and I understand that with Under The Greenlight. But I’m also on the side where this book in itself is a bit distasteful, as a poc myself I think there is a difference between modern day racism and old racism. And since this story takes place back when slavey and all that was considered okay it throws me off.