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We need to talk about this in a dis severe I fear

Suurveil June 25, 2026 3:19 am

I think just need to make a server where both sides can understand each other’s pov. No arguing just a debate between this whole situation. Some people saying that romanticizing the mafia is bad and I understand that with Under The Greenlight. But I’m also on the side where this book in itself is a bit distasteful, as a poc myself I think there is a difference between modern day racism and old racism. And since this story takes place back when slavey and all that was considered okay it throws me off.

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    Suurveil June 25, 2026 3:25 am

    I’m only saying this bc I feel like some of yall that are coming off racist has no intention on doing that. But ay if that’s your intention then

    sottovoce June 25, 2026 3:25 am

    if people aren't listening here, what makes you think they'll listen better in a server?
    pretty sure the person/people bringing up other romanticized/idealized problematic things in manhwa is merely trolling and engaging in "whataboutism". because people bring up their problems with those in comments all the time and are called overthinking moral police puritans and worse over it.

    Suurveil June 25, 2026 3:40 am

    I understand that but it’s stupid asf tbh. Everyone knows this concept is bad no matter what context you put it in. I was trying to be nice bc I’m genuinely trying to understand if people are being serious but some are it’s so stupid. To make matters worse they’re using rape and shit like that in books like roses and champagne like they’re both not bad.

    sottovoce June 25, 2026 3:46 am
    I understand that but it’s stupid asf tbh. Everyone knows this concept is bad no matter what context you put it in. I was trying to be nice bc I’m genuinely trying to understand if people are being serious ... Suurveil

    it's incredibly frustrating, but that's how it is for people with no skin in the game (and some who do, but are deluded). they can be as obtuse as they want. explain what you can for people acting in good faith, and cut your losses with the trolls and racists/racial supremacists.

    Suurveil June 25, 2026 4:00 am
    it's incredibly frustrating, but that's how it is for people with no skin in the game (and some who do, but are deluded). they can be as obtuse as they want. explain what you can for people acting in good faith... sottovoce

    100% but it’s this person seb1997 is their username they need to be banned immediately bc not only are they making things out to be hateful but they’re genuinely just being ignorant and blaming it on Americans and my people it’s annoying