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taejae sucks a bit less than suah when it comes to juhyeok, but he's also clearly using his status to take advantage of people in general, so there's a red flag for him, too. and that's on top of the whole "let's get this vulnerable young person drunk to take advantage of him sexually" thing. burnable trash vs non-recyclable trash.
presumably the author made juhyeok's mom a pharmaceutical company CEO so that this cum-dependency plot can be resolved later, but I need that resolution to move along expeditiously. I can guess that juhyeok would be standoffish towards even his mom when it comes to dealing with omega things, so why don't we get into that? if they're not talking, why?
honestly, both suah and juhyeok's relationships to their parents and their secondary genders are more interesting (worth screentime) than their forced sexual connection.
a flag is a communication tool. a basic and common function is signalling if a path is clear (green) or obstructed/hazardous (red).
imo, many people are using "flags" weirdly because it makes more sense to apply it to behaviors and attitudes rather than to a person or character as whole. that's how I saw the concept used, initially, anyways. so this is in terms of attitudes, behaviors and actions
green flags: emotional intelligence (being able to know/identify one's own feelings and recognize them in others), respect for boundaries, willingness to share, communication skills, anything that facilitates a functional relationship
red flags: being controlling, ignoring and violating boundaries, undermining the autonomy of others, superiority complexes, being invested in hierarchies, self-sacrificing or guilt-tripping, anything that leads to an abusive relationship
stuff like that
you can have conflict in a story, even a romantic one, without resorting to abuse and so-called red/black flag characters. it's as simple as characters having different needs and wants in life, or pressure from external forces. but that kind of thing takes actual writing skills and capacity for complex reasoning.
(there's a question about flags that I'm responding to, but it looks like I'm blocked by the op of that)
Its honestly overused to simplify a complex action, decision, character, development and dumbs down the person assigning it cos they cant comprehend that people (even greatly written characters) are black and white (or green or red for this matter)
Are not* black and white
great point! it oversimplifies things to talk about characters like that! if you've ever seen people bring up "yellow flag", I feel like that's an attempt by people using flags that way at reintroducing the nuance that got lost by reducing characters to red or green.
after thinking about it some more, a point I forgot to mention is that some traits or qualities can be green flags/positive in some contexts or situations, while red/negative in others. is someone ambitious, or a social climbing user? is a person pragmatic, or cynical? are they easygoing, or lacking drive? even the negative interpretations of those traits could potentially work in a relationship with someone on the same wavelength or just drive conflict in a story in a way that's not merely abusive.
Yea, that just shows that different people interprets some actions differently. The key word is “tolerance”, how much a person tolerates the character’s bs and affections. This is why i think many readers may find a character/ action “red flag” only because they dont have personal affections to the person doing it. Meaning, that affection increases a person’s tolerance to bullshits, making some actions acceptable to the person involve. This supports your conclusion of it working in a relationship or driving the conflict. This is also where perspective also comes into play. Different perspectives have different access to information of why and how is an action performed to be labeled as a flag. To anyone reading just one side of the story, it may be a “red flag” but after knowing the whys and hows, it challenges a person’s judgement to adjust, essentially claiming “yellow flag” to redeem themselves and compromise.
Ive actually seen this in Solo for two. It was interesting seeing the different reactions of the readers in real time as they try to label the complex characters. Many have debated where the destructive and clumsy love of the main characters are red flag or not. Watching and entering the debate as people try to label the main character in “flags” summarizes to me that altho these labels are a widely accepted basic descriptive analogies of a person’ character, we cant essentially use it to describe anyone as a whole, especially for humans and humanly written characters. Cos if we do, everyone is a red flag, since human mature is very selfish and self serving. But its also not a red flag. (Btw im anti flags in the debate in this story, the characters are very human to just label them red green yellow)
who do you wish got more screentime, better development, a whole spinoff...?
mine is the blink-and-you'll-miss-it hint of the relationship between the MC's sunbae/former crush and the ml's ex-lover in love for sale. still hoping they'll get their spin-off eventually! it didn't seem completely off the table for the creator...
someone asked this earlier and I would have replied but I seem to be blocked (not mad about it, but why?)
cant rem the name of the manhwa rn but it was the mcs landlord x tall alien and the bottom just wanted to remain attached to the alien like always in his lap it was so cute
Love in Orbit yes i’m still waiting for the side stories too please author nim
ummm for me i feel like there’s a lot but one i remember a lot is the words in your snare second couple it was not fair they only got 2 side stories and just called it a day author should've explored it more hell it should gotten spin off like bad apple from red candy matter of fact in both those stories red candy and and twiys i didn’t like the main couples they were boring and dragged way too much so it was easy to be distracted by the other side characters
what a brutal mood reversal... it's especially devious because you'd think that them getting intimate for the first/last time is the calm before the storm of the horrors of whatever happened/will happen on the island, something to hold on to in the future, but no, they're just dropped right into it with no warning. I'm in shock and dismay at the chapter ending like that, but it sure is effective for emotional impact.
I did wonder if the creator was going to explore hypersexuality as a trauma response again with seong su unexpectedly screwing another man, but there's the more sinister explanation that they were being followed for longer than they thought and that the cultists would be so depraved/indoctrinated that they would just assault seong su on sight. still out of pocket though.
There are so many aspects to discuss in this manhwa, I feel like it is going to be pretty heavy. I am going to wait a bit because following each chapter is not good for my heart
It's definitely going to be havy, gosh, even horrifying, and honestly, those last panels shocked me, extremely, trigger warning didn't give the actual impact, and I think I need to let it marinate for some time, maybe even till the end of the season, maybe longer, because I won't be able to handle this amount of angst and despair on a regular basis