It's funny how Americans are getting so butthurt over a historical fact, when all their mo...

You say Americans because you can’t say blk or indigenous ppl with your full chest. You can’t critique blk or indigenous ppl because you don’t have the intellectual depth or emotional tack to do so respectfully anyways. You have to actively make a generalized statement about whose upset because you can’t address BIPOC communities directly without engaging in racism, anti intellectualism, and historical revisionism

Nice try twisting my words to play the race card, but it’s not working. You’re throwing around buzzwords just to escape the uncomfortable truth. I don’t care about your internal identity politics; my point was about your global hypocrisy. It’s hilarious how you get traumatized over fictional drawings in a manhwa, yet your country’s real-life military wiped out a million Iraqis while Hollywood turned the killers into tragic heroes. Talk about 'intellectual depth' all you want, but you’re the one crying over a comic book while ignoring actual war crimes.

You’re bringing in factors that don’t correlate with this issue at all you’re trying to justify a problematic issue with another problematic issue as if two wrongs make a right? At the end of the day the manwha was racist and extremely poorly written which is why it was CANCELLED now if you have any problems with your “internal identity Israeli politics” you take that up with whoever and hopefully that has the resolution you’re looking for I guess

Now imagine if we make a new BL where an iraqi slave falls in love with the American solider. You’d have to defend that too in order to not be biased

So those same country (America) has and still is committing genocides against blk and indigenous ppl…the civil war was literally about slavery.

You’re talking about something that doesn’t apply, America is an imperialist country, it became that way by gaining capital, do you know how it gain that capital? The trans Atlantic slave trade and the genociding of indigenous peoples. You only can critique America because you think the issue here is “Americans upset” that’s ignorance, ignorance is a sign of anti intellectualism(I can define that for you and the all the other words if you think they’re too buzzy for you)

This manwha is taking the pain of blk and indigenous peoples and using it as a back drop for slave x master yaoi, if you cannot see how that is in any way connected to RACE, then you are not competent enough to have an opinion on it. If you are unable to see how this isn’t a American issue but instead a more specific racial issue in regards to two groups that have been systematically stripped of their homelands for centuries now having to have their trauma be the backdrop for a poor taste BL then again you are not competent enough

They absolutely correlate. It's about the double standards. You can't hyper-fixate on fictional issues in a manhwa and try to cancel it, while completely ignoring or excusing the toxic, real-world propaganda your own media puts out. If you’re going to be an activist about racism and ethics in fiction, keep that same energy for your own movies. The hypocrisy is the whole point.

Alright, guess what? Hollywood has already done way worse lol. They literally turned actual victims into villains in real life, so you really think some fictional love story is gonna phase me? Lmao. If you’re so big on ethics, you should’ve kept that same energy for their movies too.

Notice how each of those films still get backlash to this day. Follow your trend and go tell those people that it doesn’t deserve any backlash because it’s only fiction. Forget all ethics, don’t pick and choose

I think you’re getting your wires crossed because when did they praise the propaganda and war crimes committed by the us? in previous replies they literally said that america’s wealth and power have been built off the exploitation and genocide of black and brown people, never did they whitewash the us’s history of racism, they are pointing it out! both things can be true at the same time: a manhwa that’s tone deaf about the historical context and suffering of indigenous and black people is wrong, and the us continuing to commit atrocities to maintain power is also obviously very wrong. in what way is that a gotcha you’re using to defend this manhwa??

Just to clear that part up — when I said “Americans,” I wasn’t targeting a nationality or every individual. I meant mainstream Western media discourse in general.

But that’s not really the main issue here.

My point is still the same: there’s a pattern of selective outrage depending on context, especially when it comes to how real-world conflicts vs fictional content are treated.

If you want to disagree, argue that point instead of focusing on wording.

I stand by my point.

The issue isn’t “no criticism exists,” it’s that the standards aren’t consistent. Some topics get treated like moral crises, others get normalized or framed differently depending on context.

That inconsistency is exactly what I’m pointing out.

There’s no selective outrage, America is an imperialist country globally and internally, you actively have to look to find people calling out America’s disgusting racist habits especially in media because America likes to bury the truth and retell history in a way that benefits them (that’s historical revisionism)

that however has nothing to do with THIS bl at all, To make this a conversation about how America gets to misrepresent global tragedies so the BIPOC communities that lived there don’t get to complain about JAXX’s slaveXmaster Manhwa and not about how Two racial groups that have been uniquely affected by American genocide are upset (rightfully so) about part of their traumatic history being used without care or tact to tell a love story between the enslaved and the enslaver.

To argue anything else is to not have a fundamental understanding of why ppl are upset about this in the first place, the BIPOC who live on American and live with this history are upset not the generalized America

The problem is that there was no inconsistency with your given example.

The same people criticizing this would also be the same people criticizing those Hollywood movies. That Iraq-American movie “American Sniper” was one of the most controversial movies of the 2010s. Leftists were the main ones pushing for it to actually be banned.

You are clearly only trying to see what fits your weird little narrative. The only inconsistent one would be you, coming to defend native slave x white savior master while complaining about hero american vs evil iraqi