I remember reading this back in middle school, and absolutely loving it. But now that I’m older, my entire perspective on the story has changed. I remember seeing Navier as the innocent, wronged FL, but looking back, I don’t think that’s entirely true anymore.
It seems unfair to judge people from a different era by modern-day moral standards and blame them for accepting slavery and other practices that were considered perfectly normal back then. But by that same logic, it also seems ridiculous to blame a slave for taking advantage of an opportunity like this, especially in a time when having concubines wasn’t even illegal.
So, honestly, I don’t think anyone in this story is truly innocent. However, I think what ruined the story was the excessive glorification of Navier and the ML, while Rashta was demonized and held to a much harsher standard than everyone else.
Lol, I haven't read it in a while, but as an adult, I see Trashta and the king for what they are demons.
Trashta was in a situation she couldn't control and was trying to survive, but that doesn't excuse destroying another woman's life. She had so many chances to make things right, yet she kept choosing what benefited her. She wanted the throne, she wanted power, and she wanted to be above everyone else. She could have accepted being a mistress and lived her life, but she wanted more. Yes, she was used, but she wasn't completely powerless. She could have gone to Navier for help instead of making herself part of Navier's downfall.
Navier wasn't even ruthless at the beginning. She was pushed into becoming someone who wanted to hurt the people who hurt her. People forget that she wasn't always like that. The way she was treated changed her.
And the king? He's just a selfish man who wanted to have both women while expecting everyone to accept his nonsense. He was manipulative, condescending, and too stupid to understand the damage he was causing.
Trashta may have been a victim, but she also made choices that hurt another woman. And the king was never innocent in any of it. They're both terrible, and I'm tired of people acting like being used automatically excuses everything you do.
This is what I meant when I said the characters in this story aren’t exactly innocent. I don’t understand why the author felt the need to make Navier look so much better than everyone else, especially when she had her own flaws. Rashta may not have been a good person, but that doesn’t automatically make Navier a good one. She was a queen who saw nothing wrong with slavery, and I don’t think that’s something we should just brush aside.
And to be clear, I don’t hold Navier’s desire for revenge against her. I can understand why she wanted it, and I’m not particularly concerned with how she chose to get it. What bothers me is how differently the story treats these characters. Rashta is constantly framed as the villain, while Navier and the others are given the benefit of the doubt and portrayed as good people, even when their actions are just as questionable. Why does Rashta have to be the only one held accountable?
Rashta only wanted the throne and power cause ergy manipulated her into believing that's the only way she'll be safe from going back to slavery ergy instructed her what to do how to act he used her as a pawn for his revenge scheme how exactly did she destroy another woman's life when the said woman was a born noble with a silver spoon in her mouth and the most protected and beloved among the nobles and common people Navier just like every other nobles in this story looked down upon her with scrutiny for the mere fact that she was a slave the maids tried to poison her to kill her unborn child the nobles plotted against her especially ergy the emperor is a pedophile rapist who preyed upon a young slave girl and your empress Navier was complicit in all this she benefits from the slavery and oppression of people like Rashta she even befriended her former slave owner she also defended her brother when he hit a pregnant woman and covered for him cheating on his fiance her new husband is a war criminal also did he not sentence an entire family including children to slavery just because they bad mouthed Navier? Lmao Navier is not a victim none of the characters are except for Rashta let's not forget she actually admired Navier and looked up to her but Navier being the classist she is looked down on her for being a slave lol it seems people don't get smarter with age
fr. ergy is the real evil one. i still remember how upset i was when i read that scene. like, wow. just wow.
i spent so much time hating rashta, only to realize that ergy was one of the biggest reasons she became that crazy bitch. it honestly made me dropthis manhwa for good.
at this point, i don’t even know who i hate more, ergy+ml, or sobiech
“destroying another woman's life.”
Destroy is such a heavy word. Compared to Navier who has privilege, family, political and social backing, Rashta’s so called power is laughable. The only thing she has is the fickle favor from an Emperor. If Slavier’s life is truly destroyed by a lowly former slave with that joke of a power, then she deserves it. How do you have all the power and privilege and be ousted by someone so beneath her in every way? Whenever Rastha is involved, people seem to forgot just how privileged and powerful Slavier is. Suddenly, Slavier is a helpless woman whose entire existence is threatened by a former slave. Her feet doesn’t even touch the ground when she’s off to be the Empress of another empire.
“she kept choosing what benefited her”
DUH! Literally everyone in this dog shit story does what benefits them even if it hurts someone else, but only Rashta is bad for doing that.
“She wanted the throne, she wanted power, and she wanted to be above everyone else.”
Who wouldn’t want this? Even Slavier wanted it. So much that she married a war criminal children killing slave trader to keep that position. Oh wait, she’s the girl boss queen Mc so that’s ok.
Rashta didn’t even want to be Empress. It was Ergi and the Emperor who wanted that for her. They didn’t have Rashta’s best interest in mind and weren’t genuine, just used her for their plans. Rashta was terrified when they suggested that she should be placed in such an important position. Despite becoming an Empress, everyone saw her as a lowly slave through and through. Everyone was against her and her environment convinced her that without power and position, she would go back to being a slave.
If Rashta wants power and a high position, why is that bad? People who have that have life so good, so why wouldn’t a former slave want that? Because she hurt people in the process? So have the nobles (to have or continue to keep that power/position), but that doesn’t seem to be an issue.
“She could have accepted being a mistress and lived her life, but she wanted more.”
Even if Rashta did, Slavier and everyone couldn’t accept the lowly slave becoming a mistress and made life hard for her.
“She could have gone to Navier for help instead of making herself part of Navier's downfall.”
Slavier who didn’t like her for being a slave? Slavier who let everyone around her from their first meeting (Rashta wasn’t evil yet) humiliate and abuse her for being a lowly slave who dared to want freedom and should’ve just stayed in her place?
“Navier wasn't even ruthless at the beginning. She was pushed into becoming someone who wanted to hurt the people who hurt her. People forget that she wasn't always like that. The way she was treated changed her.”
Saying this about Slavier, but not Rashta. Looks like you forgot Rashta wasn’t always bad, but changed because of the way she was treated. Rashta was also pushed into becoming someone who hurt people who wanted to hurt her. So many people in the story hurt her, yet have been given so much grace.
“Trashta may have been a victim, but she also made choices that hurt another woman.” Rashta this Rashta that. What about the people who made choices that hurt Rashta? Not just Rashta, other people too. Literal slave owners, abusers, child killers, and rapists, but Rashta is the most villainous one? Rashta is a demon, but apparently those people aren’t.
Kosair attempting to kill Rashta’s child, bonus if Rashta died too, but all he gets is an exile and then lives his best life in another empire. All the horror and suffering of slavery downplayed because Slavier befriends and sympathizes with slave owners and abusers. Dangles Lebetti, Rashta’s trauma, right in her face. Heinry using slavery as punishment for his enemies and dragging innocent people and children into slavery.
“I'm tired of people acting like being used automatically excuses everything you do.”
I’m tired of Slavier bootlickers double standards and cherry picking what’s normal. Homewrecking is where some of y’all draw the line, but slavery gets a historical-context pass.
SlAvErY wAs NoRmAl BaCk ThEn! So was concubinage/mistresses. Why are y’all throwing a fit about that, but not the other issue?
Don’t apply a modern lens to a historical setting! Just for y’all to turn around and apply modern lens for the main character. Girl boss feminist queen uwu.
Male centered, really? Lol. You can literally see where I stated that I haven't read the book in a while, yet you somehow managed to overlook that and jump straight to calling me male centered.
You can call me whatever you want, but that particular label is genuinely insulting to me. You shared your opinion, and I shared mine based on what I've read so far. I haven't gone far into the book, and I never pretended otherwise. My opinion was based on the information I had at the time, not some imaginary conclusion about the entire story.
If you think my interpretation is wrong because there's more context later in the book, a simple correction or telling me to read further would have been enough. That's literally how discussions work. You explain what someone might have missed instead of immediately assigning them a label.
But instead of addressing my actual argument, you decided to make assumptions about my character. Which is ironic, considering you're accusing me of being biased while demonstrating an inability to distinguish between someone having an incomplete understanding of a story and someone being male centered.
Disagree with my opinion all you want, but at least have the basic comprehension to understand what I actually said before attempting to insult me. Because if your argument requires misrepresenting someone's position to make your point, then perhaps you should spend less time diagnosing people's character and more time engaging with what they're actually saying.
Lol, I genuinely don't want to squabble with you. The last time I read this book was years ago, and I didn't even get far into the chapters. My opinion was based on what I had read as a teenager, not the entire story. Once I revisit the book, I'll gladly give my two cents again and correct any misunderstandings or misjudgments I may have had, especially to the person who originally started the discussion.
But calling me male centered because you, in your almighty wisdom, decided that's what my opinion supposedly reveals? Please, spare me the bullshit. There's a difference between correcting someone's interpretation and arrogantly assigning them a label based on your own assumptions. You could have simply explained what I missed instead of acting like you've somehow deciphered my entire character from a few comments.
I'll peacefully ignore you now and get back to the first two people who actually took the time to break down my words and explain what I misunderstood, rather than turning a discussion about a book into an unnecessary personal attack.
Like I said, I read this as a teenager, formed an opinion based on the few chapters I had read, and haven't even opened the book in years. I never claimed to have read the entire story or to have a complete understanding of the characters.
So, respectfully, if you have nothing constructive to contribute beyond throwing around labels, I'll leave you to your conclusions. I'd rather have an actual discussion with people who understand that correcting someone's interpretation doesn't require insulting their intelligence or questioning their character.
Uhm, I’m not saying Rashta is innocent or that she did nothing wrong. She was definitely wrong, of course. But those three men are still the real villains here, and honestly, they’re the most evil ones.
And yes, Navier isn’t innocent. People keep saying, “What could she possibly do when she’s not the emperor?” But the thing is, she actually could have done a lot. She had power, influence, and plenty of opportunities to make a difference.
It honestly reminds me of why I’m so disappointed in Hinata Hyuga for doing absolutely nothing about her clan’s system despite constantly talking about how much she cherished Neji ( ̄へ ̄)
Yea you're right but at least Rashta's actions were driven by fear of going back to slavery and ergy's manipulation she was backed into a corner but the rest of them are evil as fuck lmao Henry is a piece of shit too he punished an entire family including children into slavery that mf doesn't get enough lashings for me and Navier is one hypocrite she defended her brother when he was caught cheating on his fiance and when he hurt a pregnant woman despite being a victim of infidelity herself lol not to mention she's buddy buddy with slave owners ergy is fucking trash he just made Rashta's life miserable for shits and giggles and what's even more ridiculous is soviet union gets a redemption arc but oh rashta the victim of slavery and abuse is the villain somebody gotta erase this story from the internet
I honestly can’t see Henry or Ergy in a good light anymore. (︶︿︶)=凸
The fact that grown men would deliberately manipulate a woman, especially an underage girl, is just disgusting.
Tbh, I’ve lost a lot of respect for the author because of the way slavery and human trafficking are handled in this story. These are serious issues, and I hate how the narrative seems to gloss over them.
And what makes it even worse is that they took a girl who was underage and already born into an incredibly vulnerable position, sold by her own parents, sexually assaulted, her child sold into slavery. That girl literally lived through hell from the moment she was born until the day she died. And even after her death, her descendants continued to suffer. There was never any redemption or justice for her.
Yet the narrative frames her as if she’s the most evil person in the entire narrative, when there are characters who have committed far worse atrocities.
I think part of the reason readers see Rashta as so cruel is that the story explicitly shows her wrongdoings and the people she hurts.
But what about everyone else’s crimes? The atrocities committed by those people are arguably far more devastating, with consequences that could cost countless lives, not just ten or twenty. Yet somehow, they never seem to receive the same level of scrutiny or condemnation as Rashta does ╥﹏╥
Then again, im not defending her for taking sobiech (it's sobiech who pursue rashta tho?), and im not defending her for every crime she did (but it's ergy and henry who manipulated and pulling the string tho?)
( ̄∇ ̄")
Still, even after writing all this and hoping people would understand Rashta’s circumstances a little better, I swear they’ll continue to scrutinize her, portray her as the most evilest person in the story, and act as if she’s the only one at fault ( ̄へ ̄)
you dropped this
navier fans can excuse all the crimes heinrey committed because he loves navier. rashta defenders get called crazy for sympathising on her as a former slave being a victim of nobles.
navier fans calling rashta defenders woke for calling navier an enabler for slavery. they'll bring up rashta's worst crime to justify their hatred for rashta yet didnt admit that they've hated rashta from the first chapter when she has yet done anything except trying to befriend navier out of her naivety.
By the way, why is this work rated so low? It’s an absolute masterpiece!!!! This site’s ratings are honestly so stupid.
IKR, this site only rate Red flag as high.
TRUEE ive seen borderline illegal trash works rated higher than this peak manhwa
Prolly either transphobes put off by the pussy or people who just can't comprehend this level of peak chaos