People really see racism everywhere... must be tough. For my part I was just fixated on hi...

racism does exist everywhere, it's the harsh truth

You mean to say the author is racist?
I just think she chose a monkey plush for the funny and smutty gags of "monkeys like bananas"=dicks. She just kept the colors of the mokey for the skin tone of his human form.

Now that's an infortunate coincidence. But I don't think it was intendended to be racist...

The intent doesn't matter if your actions themselves are harmful, making a monkey plushy turn into a brown man with a big dick is racist full stop.

Also no shade but it really irritates me when some shit like this happens and ppl are quick to defend this by saying "it's just a coincidence" like this is not a coincidence, in this day and age the author should have some sense and know that this kind of thing isn't acceptable, it's also dismissing the impact this has on black and brown people who constantly have to experience racism on a daily basis, like y'all are so quick to have grace for ppl who cause harm.

But he isn't even black... and brown isn't even a race... who do you mean when you say brown people? Who should feel offended?

That's kind of missing the point. The issue isn't whether he's Black specifically or whether "brown" is a race. Racist stereotypes aren't limited to one exact skin tone. Monkeys have historically been used to dehumanize Black people and, in many places, other dark-skinned people as well. Pairing a monkey with a dark-skinned human who also has exaggerated features like big ears and a large penis is why people are uncomfortable. Looking at each choice separately ignores why the combination raises red flags. You're getting hung up on whether he's Black, but that's not the point. The concern is the imagery as a whole. A monkey becoming a dark-skinned man with exaggerated features reflects stereotypes that have been used against Black and other dark-skinned people for a long time. Whether the creator intended it to be racist or not doesn't erase the impact or the historical associations behind those images. Intent can explain why something was made, but it doesn't change how certain imagery can be interpreted or why people may find it harmful. (I know that's a lot-)

What I mean to say is those stereotypes only exist for black people. (And that is sad in itself)
I asked you to specify which brown people, because I don't know any that would fall into this stereotype.

If the ML was black, I would have 100% agreed with you. Assimilating them with monkeys was meant to signify they were less evolved and basically animals, trying to justify the slavery and human trafficking that was perpetrated.

But I'm only seeing some weird furry in a slop porn manhua. Not my thing, though.

I think the misunderstanding is that these stereotypes aren't only about whether someone is explicitly Black. The comparison of marginalized groups to animals has been used historically as a way to portray people as less human, less advanced, or inferior. It is especially significant in anti-Black racism because comparisons to apes and monkeys were used through racist pseudoscience and colonial ideas to deny Black people's humanity and justify slavery and segregation. However, similar forms of dehumanization have also been used against other marginalized groups, including Indigenous peoples, some Asian groups, immigrants, and other colonized populations, even though the specific symbols and historical contexts differ. For example, Nazi propaganda compared Jewish people to vermin, while Indigenous peoples were often portrayed as “savages.” The point isn't that every group experienced the exact same stereotype, but that animal comparisons have repeatedly been used as a tool to dehumanize people.
So the concern isn't only "is this character Black?" or whether the creator intended it that way. It's about the combination of imagery: a monkey becoming a dark-skinned human with exaggerated features that have historically been tied to racist caricatures. Intent matters for understanding why something was created, but it doesn't erase the historical associations or the impact those images can have. (Sorry if I’m coming across as aggressive. I don’t mean for it to come across that way, I’m just trying to explain my point in the best way I can without straying too far from the topic.))

Western anti-Black stereotypes weaponized the monkey as a tool of brutal dehumanization, a stark contrast to the animal's revered status in Asian culture. Asian traditions view the monkey through a lens of divinity and respect, elevating the creature as a symbol of high intelligence, quick wit, and spiritual protection, exemplified by the heroic Monkey King, Sun Wukong. Also, as the ninth animal in the Chinese Zodiac, the monkey is highly celebrated, and those born under its sign proudly claim it as their identity.
This contrasts sharply with the rat, an animal typically viewed with disdain. So if a character was drawn with the physical traits of a rat, you already know they only want to ridicule him.

So I can understand how an Asian person born in asia, and not having been directly subjected to Western racist stereotypes would be able to publish such a Manhua. I'm not saying there is no racism in Asia, just that since the monkey figure isn't the negative one depicted in the west, the author/publisher wouldn't have though her work was problematic.

Now if an American person drew this, it would have been hightly disrespectful, knowing the intent behind.
So I do think the intent is important.

I don't care if this gets canceled though, it's just some porn manhua.

I understand where you're coming from, and I already took the author's circumstances into consideration. That's why I'm not calling them racist. Intent matters because it shows whether there was a deliberate attempt to harm, but it doesn't erase the historical associations certain imagery can carry. The issue isn't the monkey itself, but the way the imagery is combined in a way that can echo anti-black stereotypes.

ah but you're right who cares at the end of the day it's just more slop sorry if I came across this argumentative always been very passionate about this topic I genuinely enjoy hear different perspectives ╮(￣▽￣)╭

Don't worry, I also enjoyed the exchange.
I can agree with you on the fact that should a person of color be affected by this unfortunate depiction, it would be bad, even if it wasn't intentional.