ion think ppl r mad at seabi for pointing out the obvious, tht he does treat ppl like shit, cus i'm pr sure we can all agree on tht. i think ppl r mad cus seabi seems to think tht's all there is to him n they can't seem to fathom y he's a 'complex chara'. quote: 'and i still don’t get how ppl call him a complex character'. then proceeds to say 'the readers seem to be ok with sexual abusers if they r complex' but don't understand there's more as to how or why tht is the casez cus it does matter. it's the little nuances tht they can't seem to grasp n sweeping statements tht ppl prolly r :/ w
omg hello defending me… so kawai
I can understand that but i think her anger is less about people thinking he's a complex character and more people using that phrase to defend his actions. But I'm not her so if she wants to she can explain her mindset or not at the end of the day it's just a story
im a woman u can use she/her.
yeah i don’t believe he is a complex character because you guys only like him ( appreciate to the least ) because this manhwa has great art. i’m sorry but then u can call any rapist in toxic mls "a complex character". i as a reader cannot understand and forgive him for treating someone as innocent as garam as dogshit
Last time cuz I'll get hive mind accusations
but i mean im only expressing my opinion and feelings abt this manhwa, i do only think in black and white so that might be my problem, but most ppl are LEGIT mad at me bc i say he’s an abuser. many ppl just won’t admit it bc he’s a complex character or whatever but he’s still an abuser after all and anyone who hurt my son MY boy garam will be punished and sent to hell by my own hands
idk, i don think i've come across any comments where they've outright defended his abusive actions by excusing it as 'he's a complex chara'? i hvn rly seen anyone do so but then again i don read all the comments so i might've missed any if there were o(-(
You kind of did you kind of implied he can't be called abusive because hes different now, once you abuse someone you always will be an abuser even if you change, even if you become better, the awful things heejae has done shouldn't be forgiven ever not by us the readers at least but as a part of his overall character and writing
ir's tru tho, his behaviours aren't abusive right now. problematic? obsessive, forceful, possessive yes. but i wuldn say abusive. past him, v abusive. idk y u or seabi r interpreting tht as me ignoring the awful things he has done b4??
Yeah as of now he's not abusive towards garam BUT he's still an abuser once you abused someone you'll always be an abuser even now Heejae is an abuser because of his past. And honestly even now he's still a pos
i mean, what if he did a complete 180° change in personality w 0 red flags. idk, i can't exactly introduce him as 'he's an abuser' since it doesn seem exactly right.. to me..? language wise. I think of it more as a descriptor for behaviour rather than a label for smone's identity so that's why. But saying someone has changed doesn't inherently mean ur ignoring their past atrocities
tbh y r we debating when fundamentally we agree he has and still acts like a pos. it's just a matter of how we both label him, n i just see context/ time as a relevant thing when describing smone. i'm not trynna defend him or his actions pls understand ☹
Yeah i think we just disagree on how to apply the word abuser. Let's just agree to disagree ^^
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wait tht sounds so dry where did my emoji go, insert holding back tears emoji
This site is old af babe almost none of the emojis show up
I'm crying why are people so mad at @seabi just cuz she calls heejae an abuser HE IS. He has complexities to his character but hes still a selfish man who hurts others to get what he wants outta them and you can still like him as the abuser he is. damn, I like him I made multiple edits of him and him with garam i find him even cute sometimes but that doesn't change the fact his go to move to punish students is physical harm which is abuse. Not to mention the dubious consent scene with Garam during their first time. I don't understand why people feel the need to defend him.