So Till and Ivan are toxic in every universe, I see

Yall alnst fans gotta make everything about Ivan till bruh

And your problem is?

literally as a alnst fan cs there's no similarity

Welp I guess you just don't see it until characters looks 100% alike ╮(￣▽￣)╭

Dynamic is diff, characters r totally diff, u guys r confusing fanon with canon. Ivan can be pushy at times, but he's not at this characters level. Only similarity is Mc thinks he's straight

I think you didn't get the meaning of my joke tho, the similarities I see is possesive/yandere, similiar hair and red in the eyes, unwanted relationship, black one having softer facial features and fair looking sharper.

The joke about "different universe" doesn't refer to strict canon events, it's about how you feel about the characters, they could be literally a brush and broom and the "different universe" joke would still be valid