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Fiction doesn't have to be moralizing or activist, nor do the characters need to teach you...

Anry_tary August 12, 2026 3:03 am

Fiction doesn't have to be moralizing or activist, nor do the characters need to teach you the difference between right and wrong; it’s up to you to have enough critical thinking to discern that what you’re reading has no real impact on your fucking reality. If the mere depiction of evil tempts you to imitate it, then you should rethink your own values; perhaps your morality relies entirely on a fiction to be shaped (...which depends on you as an individual—how easily influenced you are).

Fiction can be presented through various narratives that—depending on the author's intent—lend themselves to analysis, questioning, and even debate... but if you are impressionable enough to want to imitate a caricatured version of fiction and place it on the same level as damn reality, then you don't possess much critical thinking.

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    Catofishfries September 15, 2026 5:24 am

    And I thank you, oh great wise one

    Cam October 11, 2026 1:41 pm

    Ok. Do you have any other dissertations that the teacher has asked you for?

    Catofishfries October 11, 2026 1:55 pm
    Ok. Do you have any other dissertations that the teacher has asked you for? Cam

    Neither a compliment nor a diss?? Exactly what reaction were u reaching for w this lmao

    Kattty October 11, 2026 3:27 pm

    I mean it is just a fact media influences what is seen as acceptable or understandable in society, and can normalise certain behaviours. Like for example the common presentation of women as sexual objects, which helps to normalise negative attitudes towards them and ppl who would treat them as such. You don't have to be personally influenced by it to recognise the potential harm. In fact only ppl who aren't influenced by it are able to stand back and be more objective about whether it's right or not. I don't understand the argument ppl try make that all entertainment and media should somehow be separated entirely from morality, and a moral argument is supposedly less valid or worthy because of that. It sounds like it makes sense at a surface level sure but thinking about it for more than two seconds what even would be the argument for that. It's a lot of words disguised under a guise of liberty or freedom without recognising ppl's liberties are restricted all the time everywhere to varying degrees depending on the overall potential impact or harm the state sees a specific act as having. I mean personally i don't really care if people wanna read incest, i don't think this act specifically is going to be normalised just because of manga like this, but it makes no sense to get angry at people who are upset. At least not using this argument anyway. It would be a slightly more logical and unemotional argument even to argue there's little moral argument against incest but no one on the side of reading about it wants to try that angle for whatever reason

    Catofishfries October 11, 2026 3:46 pm
    I mean it is just a fact media influences what is seen as acceptable or understandable in society, and can normalise certain behaviours. Like for example the common presentation of women as sexual objects, whic... Kattty

    What a low iq take, no shade. Playing cod and fortnite doesn't make u wanna go shoot up random people, watching horror movies doesn't make you wanna go massacre a bunch of ppl so where exactly are we getting this take from, that incest/shota/loli in fiction makes you wanna endorse it

    Catofishfries October 11, 2026 3:52 pm
    What a low iq take, no shade. Playing cod and fortnite doesn't make u wanna go shoot up random people, watching horror movies doesn't make you wanna go massacre a bunch of ppl so where exactly are we getting th... Catofishfries

    -you spout a whole lot of big words but nothing you've wrote has any scientific proof behind it. If you cant differentiate reality from fiction that is a developmental issue w you. The ppl that you think have been "affected by fiction" have ALREADY been pedophiles, predators, incestuous or violent, not bcuz of fiction so get it right

    PoohsayWetPoohsayClean October 11, 2026 3:57 pm

    Nice take

    PoohsayWetPoohsayClean October 11, 2026 3:58 pm

    Whats your thoughts about fiction that desensitizes the people who read it? Stories that repeatedly expose readers to violence, cruelty, disturbing situations

    Catofishfries October 11, 2026 4:03 pm
    Whats your thoughts about fiction that desensitizes the people who read it? Stories that repeatedly expose readers to violence, cruelty, disturbing situations PoohsayWetPoohsayClean

    WRONG theres absolutely no scientific proof behind this, go educate urself man instead of being so pressed

    Cam October 11, 2026 6:21 pm
    Neither a compliment nor a diss?? Exactly what reaction were u reaching for w this lmao Catofishfries

    Yeah, because I asked for your insight. Like who was talking to you ??

    Catofishfries October 11, 2026 6:53 pm
    Yeah, because I asked for your insight. Like who was talking to you ?? Cam

    I get a notif abt this convo each time so ur stuck w me and my opinion

    Ameba October 11, 2026 7:01 pm

    I agree but this story doesnt have any deeper layer to justify it

    Kattty October 11, 2026 8:28 pm
    What a low iq take, no shade. Playing cod and fortnite doesn't make u wanna go shoot up random people, watching horror movies doesn't make you wanna go massacre a bunch of ppl so where exactly are we getting th... Catofishfries

    Wait so is your point that presentations of media - not just games, but books or movies - of say idk certain races or nationalities or genders etc as bad has literally no impact on that society's perceptions of said group?? Because that's like the extension of that logic, otherwise where are you drawing the line. There's literally studies on this, humans as a whole are very easily influenced by things like this. You don't have to take my word for it, you can just look it up and no i literally said word for word i don't think reading this would make you want to endorse it, i just said the argument that morality has no place in manga is dumb. If "amoral" media had no impact, why do we ban certain books?? No normal person would object to the banning of books as an idea bc "only idiots would let themselves get influenced by smth clearly bad, if you're so easily influenced then don't read it", but you can object to the substantive content of what is being banned. Basically you can't object to ppl having hang ups about incest manga based on their ethics but you could object to them thinking it is unethical in the first place. But for obvious reasons no one's gonna do that. That's why im just saying the argument morals have no place in manga doesn't make any sense

    Kattty October 11, 2026 8:31 pm
    -you spout a whole lot of big words but nothing you've wrote has any scientific proof behind it. If you cant differentiate reality from fiction that is a developmental issue w you. The ppl that you think have b... Catofishfries

    I'm starting to think you're actually very pressed

    Catofishfries October 12, 2026 11:29 am
    Wait so is your point that presentations of media - not just games, but books or movies - of say idk certain races or nationalities or genders etc as bad has literally no impact on that society's perceptions of... Kattty

    Ur js repeating the same baseless point no, even stereotypes shouldn't affect ur REAL LIFE perception smhhh. Whatever racist low iq dumbass does THATS THEIR ISSUE that speaks on ur development issues man, get it thru ur head

    PoohsayWetPoohsayClean October 12, 2026 4:19 pm
    WRONG theres absolutely no scientific proof behind this, go educate urself man instead of being so pressed Catofishfries

    You sound much more pressed. First of all, I wasn’t even talking to you. I was asking for HIS opinion, not yours, lmao. Bro really thinks everyone wants to hear what he has to say. Maybe learn how to read first and develop some social awareness before inserting yourself into a conversation that has absolutely nothing to do with you. Not every conversation is an invitation for you to butt in. Learn when to speak and when to mind your own business. Read jinx or something lol.

    Catofishfries October 12, 2026 5:47 pm

    DONT CAREE its an open comment section, talking abt "social" awareness, man ur on the internet go get a real SOCIAL life and maybe stop reading slop like "jinx". Clearly ur pressed man out here blocking on mangago of all places LMFAO

    Kattty October 12, 2026 7:05 pm
    Ur js repeating the same baseless point no, even stereotypes shouldn't affect ur REAL LIFE perception smhhh. Whatever racist low iq dumbass does THATS THEIR ISSUE that speaks on ur development issues man, get i... Catofishfries

    You need to take a break

    Catofishfries October 12, 2026 8:44 pm
    You need to take a break Kattty

    No