For those who didn't know

i can't find anything on author's Twitter. Do you mind linking more information?

Author published a post promoting the said incest manga from 2022.

https://x.com/neoshoco/status/1587284505110269954


The CP I'm talking about is linked with the kiribaku doji that they made back then and had been one of their popular works aswell. And before anyone comes at me saying the dojo doesn't count as CP yes it does because the author quite literally made illustrations of two minors for entertainment purposes made for perverts like said author themselves.

There's quite a lot more people online posting about this controversy and explaining them and providing way more details and evidence than me so I suggest you look those up too.

Thanks for the promo. Also you're loosely using the word CP on a bunch of pixel. It's not like they're real people.

acting like the original source material isnt already sexualizing "children" a bunch of the highschool girls in my hero academia has no reason to be half naked. and pretty sure one of the adult woman in that anime is making dabs at children too. don't pmo.

"cp" and its just a drawing. you're one of the reason why the term keeps getting watered down. have you done anything for the REAL victims? or you just yap online to feel good about yourself?

whether fictional art counts as CP or not is up for debate but depicting post-puberty adolescents who are arguably in their horniest phase in sexual acts shouldn't count as one.

YOU are the one watering down this kind of issue. Saying “it’s just a drawing” and acting like that means it should be taken less seriously or talked about less is exactly why people become unaware of how serious this kind of shit is in the first place. The fact that the characters are fictional doesn’t suddenly erase the fact that they’re still portrayed as minors. Fiction being fictional doesn’t give people a free pass to dismiss everything depicted in it, especially when the entire point of what I’m bringing up is the way the author chose to portray and sexualize characters who are supposed to be minors.

And no, I never mentioned MHA, so why are you making it sound like I support the show, its author, or the way its characters are portrayed whatsoever? That’s an assumption you made entirely on your own. If you think MHA sexualizes its teenage characters inappropriately, then fucking criticize it. I’m not stopping you. But you bringing up another series doesn’t somehow invalidate what I said about this author. Two things can be criticized at the same time. You’re not proving me wrong by dragging another piece of media into the conversation; you’re just changing the subject because you don’t actually have a response to my original point.

And before you pull out the “it’s just fictional” argument again, that’s literally the mindset I’m criticizing. Fiction doesn’t exist in some completely isolated bubble where nothing about it can influence how people perceive or discuss real issues. When people constantly excuse or trivialize certain subjects because “it’s only a drawing,” it can contribute to people becoming desensitized to the subject itself. That’s why I’m not going to pretend it’s meaningless just because it’s fictional.

I’m spreading awareness about the author and what they’ve created so people can actually be informed and make their own decisions about supporting them. That does not mean I’m claiming to speak for every real victim, nor does it mean I’m pretending a fictional depiction is identical to a real-life case. So your “have you done anything for REAL victims?” argument is irrelevant. You don’t get to invalidate someone raising awareness simply because they aren’t doing activism in the exact way you personally expect them to.

And honestly, if you’re putting this much effort into arguing against me and trying to make ME look like the bad guy for informing people about what this author has made, then just say you don’t think people should care. Because I genuinely don’t understand what the supposed harm is in people being informed. What exactly is the terrible consequence of someone learning what an author has created and deciding whether they still want to support them? If anything, spreading awareness gives people more information and more agency over what they choose to consume and support.

I’m not forcing anyone to agree with me or telling anyone what they have to do. I’m literally only saying, “This is what this author has made. Be aware of it.” If that alone bothers you more than the actual subject being discussed, then maybe you should rethink why you’re so determined to defend the author instead of simply acknowledging what they did.

Disregarding sexualized depictions of minors then hiding behind “it’s just fiction” or “it’s only a drawing” is exactly the kind of shit I’m criticizing. You’re acting like putting something on paper suddenly strips it of every moral implication. It doesn’t. If your entire defense is just “they’re fictional,” then you’re not really addressing the issue, you’re just using fiction as a convenient excuse to brush it off. I genuinely wouldn’t be surprised if you used that same logic to defend those toxic BL stories where abuse, coercion, and suffering are practically the whole fucking plot: “it’s fiction, who cares?” “Nobody’s actually getting hurt.” Same tired excuse every time. You can recognize that something is fictional without acting like that means nobody is allowed to find it disturbing, criticize it, or question the person who deliberately made it. What bothers me is the sheer eagerness to dismiss the subject altogether just because it exists on a fucking screen or page.

If you seriously need me to pull out a fucking statute before you can understand why explicitly sexualizing characters who are canonically minors is a problem, then you’re already reaching. Japan’s Act on Regulation and Punishment of Acts Relating to Child Prostitution and Child Pornography defines a child as anyone under 18 and defines child pornography around visual depictions of a child in sexual conduct, but Japan’s current framework has historically carved purely fictional manga and anime out of that criminal definition. That does NOT magically make the material morally acceptable; it means criminal law and moral criticism are two different fucking questions. Other legal frameworks, including European child-protection law, have gone further in covering depictions of people appearing to be children. So if your whole defense has now become “prove to me that this exact drawing legally meets the definition of CP,” you’re desperately trying to turn a discussion about what the author deliberately created into a courtroom technicality. I never said every country has identical laws or that the author is automatically guilty of a crime everywhere. I’m saying the author knowingly made explicit sexual material involving characters who are established minors, and pretending “they’re fictional” settles the entire issue is intellectually lazy.

WHAT A HYPOCRITE, bro literally saw on your page that you've read a oneshot yaoi manga where the two mcs are in highschool and brothers

"OH NO I GOT CAUGHT READING A GUILTY PLEASURE OF MINE AFTER SHAMING ANOTHER AUTHOR FOR PROMOTING THE SAME ISSUE!!1!1!!1", bro has it never crossed your mind I read those exact manwhas to do the same shit I'm doing with this one and spreading awareness to people, criticizing manwhas like that made by other problematic authors? Lmao if you're gonna make unreasonable assumptions and criticism like this just shut the fuck up and tell other people straight up about how you genuinely just want to protect this mangas author by trying to find issues about me, someone who's actively trying to spread awareness to other people about how problematic PB's author is.

Girl, you gave it 5 stars what awareness are you spreading? You didn't even criticize it. All talk but empty, just go back to your school books

Considering you didn’t even respond to me calling out how you went through my profile looking for something you could use against me, I’m assuming the five-star rating is the only thing you managed to find and cling onto. For the sake of keeping this argument civil and professional, I’ll apologize that you happened to come across a manga on my profile that I apparently rated five stars and that this led you to misunderstand the situation and conclude that I’m a hypocrite. The rating was most likely a misclick on my end, and I genuinely don’t remember intentionally giving it five stars, so I’ll take responsibility for that mistake regardless. What I won’t accept is you taking one accidental rating and treating it like some definitive record of my morals, opinions, or what I support. You looked through a handful of things on my profile and immediately built an accusation around them, despite having no idea what I’ve criticized elsewhere or what I’ve said about similar material outside this app. I’ve read stories I never reviewed, left others sitting in my lists, and simply didn’t bother rating plenty of things, so treating my profile like it contains a complete catalogue of my beliefs is ridiculous. I’m allowed to learn something new about a work or its creator and change my stance afterward; an old rating doesn’t permanently bind me to supporting something. And since I’m the one who brought up the Kiribaku doujinshi in the first place, doesn’t the description of “two characters in high school” sound familiar to you? That is precisely the kind of premise I was referring to when I brought up the author’s work, so it’s rather ironic that you’re trying to use another story involving high-school characters as some revelation about my supposed hypocrisy. What stands out more to me, though, is how little attention you gave to the actual reason I made my original comment. I was informing people about an author and the material they created, yet instead of engaging with any of that, you went digging through my profile until you found something you thought could discredit me. At that point, it starts looking less like you’re interested in what I’m saying and more like you’re determined to find some personal inconsistency you can weaponize. You can interpret that however you want, but when someone has to sift through another person’s profile for ammunition rather than address the substance of their criticism, it doesn’t exactly make their position look stronger. If anything, it makes me wonder why scrutinizing me mattered so much more to you than the issue I was actually raising.

You guys are so obsessed with punishing people, playing God and all that because it's easier to do it in the internet, in the place where uncensored content is free to move isn't it? Because prosecuting real predators in the streets, in the office, in the government is hard where you don't actually have any power. All it comes down to is a black and white perspective when it is always a IT DEPENDS argument. Policing people here on a porn site is not going to make you gain angel wings nor would it tempt you to lose to the devil. This is a gray area, you as many others should just read at your own risk.

Not even gonna waste my time entertaining you. Atleast the others who came to argue with me have the decency to accuse me of something. You on the other hand are just straight up laying shit flat on the surface and saying you support sexual assault, child porn, incest and all other fucked up bullshit AS LONG AS IT'S FICTIONAL. Don't even bother replying if all you're gonna do is fight against me criticising me for trying to spread awareness because at least I'M doing something. Atleast I'M trying to make an effort no matter how small of an impact it has to people. Atleast I'M not romanticizing a story of coercion, abuse and motherfucking rape.

You’re making 0 impact, you sound annoying and pretentious. if you truly want to make something worth your time, start an ONG instead of fighting fictional people on the internet, THAT is making an impact. What you’re doing here is whining and acting pathetic over people who will NEVER agree with you, and the fact that your mind cannot comprehend that if someone likes that content, there is no way they will rethink their life choices because an annoying anonymous person told them it’s wrong, wake up.
I feel, as someone who was a victim of CP and raped… your comment makes me laugh, you only care about it when fictional people are involved. go do charity work at your local area, help real kids who are in danger, do something with your life, because whatever this is, is just making people act and say things out of spite, no one would listen to a person on an illegal site btw. You don’t care about children at all, you only want the higher morale at the internet ethics parade
I would never consume CP, and never involve myself with people who do; but I do help in my area, I do go charity work, help people in need, speak about my experience so others don’t have to go through the same. because that’s making a small impact, not writing a long comment of how you are better than others because of your morals on the internet where people are anonymous, while you’re at it also look what being anonymous does to the human brain. These people know what they are reading and what they are getting themselves into and they do not care, you’re just one more internet comment, that people will soon forget about. Go outside, where people WANT and NEED help

I’m sorry if my comments came across as insensitive or offended you in any way, especially considering what you’ve personally been through. I do sympathize with you, but that doesn’t mean you can decide that what I’m doing has “0 impact” simply because it isn’t the kind of action you personally consider meaningful. Knowing what kind of people someone publicly supports can make a huge difference in how others perceive them. If someone openly says they defend and support Donald Trump, for example, people are naturally going to scrutinize that and may assume they share or tolerate some of his views because they’ve chosen to publicly associate themselves with him. Now apply that same logic here: someone could be reading this author’s work and supporting them without having the slightest idea that the author has made material like this. They could then be perceived as knowingly supporting someone who drew sexual material involving minors and promoted incest, when in reality they simply didn’t know. That is literally why I’m spreading awareness in the first place. Somehow the discussion has wandered from that into whether I’ve done enough charity work or personally helped victims, when that was never the main objective of my comment. I’m not claiming one anonymous reply is going to reform someone’s entire worldview; I’m simply making information available to people who may not have had it before. You’re right that some people will know exactly what they’re consuming and won’t care, but that doesn’t mean everyone else is equally informed. If even one person learns about the author and decides they no longer want to support them, or simply becomes more conscious of what they’re engaging with, then saying I made “0 impact” is already an inaccurate statement. I know I have limits, I have responsibilities outside the internet, and I’m not going to pretend I’m some activist saving the world. I’m doing what I can at the moment, and that happens to be speaking up and informing people. You can think that’s insignificant if you want, but that still doesn’t make your assessment an objective fact.

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I think you’re attributing an intention to me that I never had in the first place. You keep framing this as though I believe arguing with strangers online is some substitute for actual action, when I never said that. I’m not presenting a comment section as a solution to the issue; I’m using the platform I’m already on to say something I think people should know. Telling me to start an NGO, go outside, or do charity work doesn’t really rebut anything I said either. Those are worthwhile things, sure, but they’re completely different forms of action, and one does not suddenly become worthless because the other exists. You called my comment an attempt to feel morally superior, yet you’re the one assigning an ulterior motive to me instead of engaging with the substance of what I actually wrote. I’m not claiming to be some savior, nor am I demanding that anyone change their life because I told them to. If someone reads my comment and remains completely unmoved, then so be it. I said what I wanted to say. You seem to be measuring the value of an action exclusively by whether it produces an immediate, dramatic transformation in someone, which is an incredibly narrow way of looking at impact. But your personal experience still cannot be used as a universal measuring stick for everyone else’s actions. You found meaning through charity and speaking about your experience; I’m trying to raise awareness in the space I currently have access to. Those things aren’t mutually exclusive. And the whole “people will forget your comment” argument doesn’t really prove anything either. People forget most things they encounter online. That doesn’t mean those things had no effect while they were seen. A warning doesn’t become pointless just because it isn’t permanently etched into someone’s memory. You’re basically telling me that because I can’t guarantee a life-changing result, I shouldn’t bother saying anything at all, and I don’t agree with that mentality. If everyone waited until they could guarantee some enormous outcome before speaking up, awareness would never fucking start anywhere. I’m not claiming this comment section will solve the problem. I’m saying it is better for people to know what they’re supporting than to remain completely unaware of it, and I don’t think that is such an outrageous thing to stand by.

you are so confident, and so so wrong, the issue isn't you “raising awareness,” it's you calling fictional drawings CP, you keep doing it, even when you know you're hurting real victims by doing that. No real child was involved, exploited, or harmed when creating that doujinshi. You can dislike what the author drew, but saying its actual child exploitation is incredibly misleading and disgusting of you. If your goal was to genuinely to inform people, then bring up the facts ACCURATELY and let people decide how they feel about it on their own, its not cp, and if you seriously thought it was, why don't you make a police report? or submit an anon tip to the fbi page of exploitation of minors? because you know nothing will be done, because again, no real child was harmed or exploited, which means its not cp.