u can read the other comments here when it comes to this. i respect ur opinion and yes, non consensual sexual acts r disgusting, but gather the context clues and re-analyze.
ideum is a bl writer. a novelist. he writes freaky shit. him and jaeyi must've talked about kinks and how cnc (consensual non consensual) and somnophilia is also a part of their agreement :D
plus, we have to remember ideum literally tried to suck off jaeyi when he was asleep hahahahahaha we have to remember that also happened.
so im p sure theyre ok with it.
ure not too woke, its fine, just learn next time that not ever bl couple is the same
Tbh ur whole comment is just a possibility, we dont know what they talked about.. And if a conversation like this wasnt shown to us, why assume it happened? Jaeyi literally acknowledged it was wrong when he mentioned ideum was asleep, if they had this so called conversation you’re talking about, you’d think he wouldn’t feel guilty in that situation. This is level 10 copaganda, just admit that your fav might just be a sexual assaulter and attempted rapist
In previous chapters, Ideum tried to suck Yaeji's cock while he was asleep. Why are you treating this like rape? It's obvious that both of them enjoy this kinky shit LMO
Why does this kink make you uncomfortable or surprise you? After all, the story started with a guy masturbating while thinking about his neighbor; even though he knew it made Yaeji uncomfortable, he kept using a dildo in front of him every day until he finally noticed.
That's the thing, you assume that they talked about it, but we as the readers didn't get any confirmation. And the same goes for Ideum, neither of them is okay. And I'm not assuming that every BL is the same? I just think that the author should've made it clearer that there would be characters engaging in SA (I'm referring to it as SA because, again, you're assuming that Ideum is okay with it), either through the characters agreeing to it or something similar.
It doesn’t matter if he enjoyed it, the point is that he didn’t have his consent before? Did jaeyi get ideums consent to pull down his pants and finger him? Did he enjoy it while he was sleeping?? It’s attempted rape because he clearly had intentions to keep on going even if he hadn’t waken up. And whats with all of you mentioned that ideum is also a sexual assaulter? I don’t remember that part, but if you swear it happened, then he’s a sexual assaulter too? Sexual assault does make me uncomfortable, if they had talked about it before then there wouldn’t be a problem. Kinks rely on consent, there was no consent involved??
Again, there should be consent. You're assuming that there was consent. Until there wasn't proven consent it's sexual assault. Also, kinks also require... consent
You're so right!
Ideum masturbated in front of Jaeyi without his consent, and he did so knowing full well that it made Jaeyi uncomfortable. It seems like this shit bothers you more than it does Ideum himself—a fetishistic, perverted character who enjoys that kind of kink.
It definitely implied consent obviously not explicit which I’m sure most people hope for. But this is coming from a BL where someone masturbates multiple times in front of the other person without consent, the bottom fantasize about a random man coming into the door and assaulting him, where the bottom tries to give a blow job while the other person sleeps. If you don’t like that kink I would recommend stopping because there’s been already been several chapters of unconsented stuff happening
No don’t let them silence you, having sex with with a sleeping person is rape, don’t know why some people are saying that’s it’s not…
Again, you're assuming. And where was it implied consent? Kinks require consent, until there's then it's sa from both side
It's the same people that think that fiction doesn't affect reality and that rape in bl is normal and if you don't like it that your vanilla.
I think it was implied in the first few chapters were he literally masturbates in front of a man who clearly voiced being uncomfortable about it. Their relationship went further when said man decided to accept it. And there’s also already multiple assault from the one that got assaulted right now. Believe it or not some people do have grape kink (I seen by the fantasizing about being assaulted by a random delivery guy). The entire premise of this story began with non-con kinks and it’s just continuing to be honest.
Again Ill acknowledge that in definition it is rape a noncon/dubcon. But the key word here is "us the readers". We are reading. Not witnesses to an assault. The first chapter was sexual harassment and most readers were like "haha so funny" but when the ml puts his dick in while the mc is asleep it is suddenly "too far"??
This is NOT me saying "fiction isnt reality boooo" because that is a lame argument and untrue.
Uh, this is me saying "is it worth discussing/arguing about still? Truly?
Anyways, I doubt that this story is gonna stop with these non-con kinks so you might as well just drop it now if it makes you uncomfortable :/.
It is. And because it is fiction doesnt mean it isnt. But many enjoy reading it, yes. I liked it when he stuck his dick in him while asleep. Now what do we do? Burn me?
You guys keep mentioning kinks as if theyre engaging in this consensually. Have your somnophilia kink, but engage in it consensually or else its not a kink. Its rape. Again, i do not care if ideum was enjoying it or did the same thing. Thats not my point. I am saying that because jaeyi DIDNT get consent beforehand, that what he did was sexual assault. Fantasizing things are different, im not gonna address it cause your logic doesnt make sense. Its not like jaeyi knew about it, so its not relevant.
In that regard, wouldn't they both be the harasser/assaulter who agreed to be in a kinky relationship?
If they wanna be in a situationship- no, no, let me rephrase.
If the author wants to write their characters in a kinky situationship
..let them
this whole thing started off from sexual harassment, coming from the uke. the uke is a sexual harraser from the start. why are you still reading the story if that's not your cup of tea?
the plot revolved around Ideum being a bl smut writer, jaeyi already read his work, he know how much of a pervert ideum is and he still goes on with it. they're trying out common kinks in every chapters and somnophilia is a common kink to have.
then ideum also suck jaeyi off when he's still in asleep, which jaeyi don't mind. they don't say anything but since they didn't, it mean both of them don't mind. they have a blanket consent going on. I don't remember ANYONE complain about it. did you skip chapters or are you okay when he did it and suddenly not when jaeyi did it.
I'd agree with you if it's another bl cuz it IS SA there but they're both a pervert here
And you kept reading after Jaeyi ALSO GOT A BLOWJOB FALL ASLEEP??? While his neighbor purposely masturbates to his window for more than a few days after he told said just stop?? why didn’t you drop it then why did you say anything about it then???
Guys, It's kinda creepy and disgusting sexually assaulting someone who is asleep and... can't consent
But idk maybe I'm too woke