I pity both the empress and emperor... The emperor already love someone else (ML MOTHER) u...

No, the emperor was groomed by MLs mother and the empress is just a rapist that I don't feel pity for.

The emperor wasn't In love with Enoch's mother, he was being raped. She didn't know she was doing it though because she was crazy and thought he was her husband. Enoch asks him why he went along with it and he said what was the point of resisting.

Empress is raping a rape victim that is traumatized by sex and doesn't want to be touched by women.

Let me remind you. The current empress is tge first woman that Genas had sleep with (Genas said it himself). So stop saying Enoch's mother him, you'll be spreading misinformation. Though she did harass Genas when intoxicated.

The assaulter here is leutefai, the empress. Hate her guts but hope she has a redemption arc. Like the black flag male leads in other stories.

Yeah you ware right. I suddenly feel like lost memory for a second because of her, I thought I was misread something so important for a moment and almost believed Enoch's mother did that. Thanks U save me.

The emperor and empress plot is like reverse story of red flag man in manhwa storyline like we always read . Why cannot I, my self hope for they happy ending like the plot man r*pe the FL and still end up together just because they miscommunication is?!

I see the privilege here

Right.. haha the empress is insufferable.

But it's not Miscommunication it's clear, he does not like her and it's rape. She is abusing him. And I don't care about genders either ways abuse is wrong. I won't excuse it. There is no redemption

Each to their own though. Everyone had their own opinion

Has*

Where does he say that she's the first person he had sex with? I remember people discussing how Genas was seen coming out of her bedroom in the mornings and Genas and Enoch having a conversation where Enoch as a kid asked if Genas loves his mother and Genas basically said no but he has no choice.

The implication was very clearly that her insanity got worse and worse until eventually she was having sex with him against his will. Which chapter are you saying he says he lost his virginity to the current empress? People taunt him for coming out of her room in the mornings and kid Enoch accidentally sees them together at one point and runs away, forgets his book or something behind, comes back for it, gets caught by Genas, and then asks Genas if he loves his mother, is told basically "no, but what's the point in resisting" or something like that.

If my understanding of the story is wrong I really want to know where all that is changed, but I don't want to read aimlessly through over a hundred chapters to find that.

Idk the exact chapter but it was when their niece (child of their eldest sister) was found by the empress and she confronted/assaulted Genas thinking he had a child with another woman. He told her to use HER BRAIN because how could he have a child when he haven't slept with any women before HER, the EMPRESS.

And coming out of a bedroom doesn't automatically mean having s*x. And Enoch's mother is INDEED Genas' first love. He said it himself too.

And also, Genas and Enoch were talking about the previous empress mistaking Genas as the previous emperor. Why can't he resist? Why not tell her that he's not Evan, their father? That's what Enoch is asking about.

Obviously, he can't resist because he loved her already.. or he's mistaking his gratitude for her for love. Because the empress saved him when he was young.

Yeah that's why I prepare "I" from the beginning I didn't said "we" should pity them or needs other opinion and I also didn't force anybody to agree on my opinion... Do I ?! If you do, yeah I do, if you don't, I don't have babe

If you don't like my opinion, u don't have to. I don't force you to think like I do.

Why is that I'm saying that is, in my opinion, it's just so sad for someone who has unrequited love. Sometimes people don't not how to expressing their love and affection and do the opposite way to express itself. Especially someone who has power or money. They thinks they can get anything nor human or someone feelings. Yeah, and I admit the wrong's doing the empress made. it's just she has the red flag personally. It's just to made they feeling is not for each other. I believe if just the emperor open his heart from the begining this things not going to happen.

Ups typo *If you do, yeah you do, if you don't, you don't have to babe

What we saw implies pretty clearly that they had sex. Him telling the crazy woman that just cut him, specifically at the thought that he'd had sex with someone else, that she's the only woman he's had sex with isn't enough for me to disbelieve what I myself saw.

Same

i love my empress mal but genas is equally fucked up n twisted and obsessed with the step mom knowing 1. she wasnt in her right mom2. she thought he was his dad which like ew why wud u take it romantic this lady cud just be ur mom 3. the weird obsession with enoch to revse n be closer with the mom its just ick I don't pity the man for that i kinda see him as role reverseof fmc n also the weird triggers of keeping the dead moms possessions instea dof letting her go?

like wudnt it make much more sense for her biological child enoch to keep her momentos hold a funeral ik he has his whole princess lover curse shit but now that he is a grown ass adult with the title of a duke nonetheless and whole territory n mansion? like if her own flesh n blood only does bare min idk over time hes a chara i refuse to understand and just the whole palace knowing that their emperor keeps the momento possessions of the cast away dead former queen of the old empire like how odd is that pov?

n the whole thing him not wanting to have kids n p mucht aking impotence pills so he can pass on the throne to enoch's kids is also nasty cuz like 1. the throne isnt his mal united all the damn kndgoms in blood n she has to hand it off to this stranger enoch n his wife juliet? The one that blatantly barely visits his brother the emperor and doesnt even notice genas trembling that mal even aftr crazy violence episode notices n juliets interaction with genas let alone mal are so miniscule u can count on half a pinky? like what n most their time they cant keept their hands off each other idk what work enoch barely does for his territory in admin terms?

idk man its just in multiple dimensions pity is very littlen understanding him is ffrusting with genas n lowk i think thats why mal sparked a interested in him being so complicated n she gets frustrated cuz apparently genas a human being our soul doesnt exist withoutmention of enoch n shes like bitch do something for urself cuz ur also dragging me n the empire into it, n u want me to all this shit even i handed u the throne - crown - title on a silver platter n u dont wanna show me any affection or want me to show mine -> becomes trigger for crazy also damn this man is so freaking cooked without mal too cuz with mals scaring everyone into hierarchy theyd all try to kill him idk if enoch will help or theyll try to put a bounty on his head comb thru empire to find him if he runs away to get cred for pleasing empire by finding empror

Looking through again, you're just wrong. He doesn't say she's the first one he had sex with, he says he hasn't had sex with anyone else, but if you look at what Mel says you can see she mentions having "bought him" and she's pissed off he would have sex while he's "hers", meaning this conversation is about after the empress died.

Also, it's very likely she knows he had sex with the former empress.

Omg you are spreading false info!!!
The empress took his virginity. He NEVER did anything with Enoch's mum, please stop!!! Read this again, slowly this time! What is wrong with people on this commentary session lately, you need help reading or comprehending. Dafuq is everyone smoking lately!

No she didn't. You're wrong. They're talking about AFTER Mel "bought" him. She's mad that he had a child AFTER she bought him, while he's "hers". She monologues about how she bought him and now he belongs to her, so how dare he have a child with another woman.

He never said "you took my virginity", he said "I haven't had sex with anyone else". He's saying "how could I have had a child, that requires sex".

Girl you twisted you own comments