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When did grape became such a normal concept that now it's just blantly mentioned as 'grape...

kananana October 9, 2026 8:09 pm

When did grape became such a normal concept that now it's just blantly mentioned as 'grape' in a series we already had enough of those in straight manhwa or hentai etc, women character being degraded and such and now my gays too?!

It's so weird like yeah we have read non consensual sxx bL and yeah grapes still prevalent but it's never been mentioned mostly of the time as is it, they always dance of with the 'they were both drunk/drug' type thing I'm so shockkkkk

The art was cute specially the chibi and their dynamic but the intro

Responses
    agares October 10, 2026 4:52 am

    Now? Yaoi was always about rape. It started as rape. Idk where you got that idea from. If anything it changed in the past 10 years to more healthy stories

    Remmy October 10, 2026 1:53 pm
    Now? Yaoi was always about rape. It started as rape. Idk where you got that idea from. If anything it changed in the past 10 years to more healthy stories agares

    exactly like what are these ppl talking about

    agares October 10, 2026 3:52 pm
    exactly like what are these ppl talking about Remmy

    Newgens

    Jxxxx October 11, 2026 1:34 am
    Now? Yaoi was always about rape. It started as rape. Idk where you got that idea from. If anything it changed in the past 10 years to more healthy stories agares

    Nah, yeah, rape has always existed in BL, but nowadays, it feels like it's becoming much more prevalent and normalized. We might get one healthy story for every ten fucking stories that graphically depict rape and then try to justify or romanticize it. Older works had these themes too, but they weren't necessarily reaching the same massive audience. Now that BL has become mainstream, these stories are reaching far more readers. I think that's what the person is trying to say. ╮( ̄▽ ̄)╭

    Jxxxx October 11, 2026 1:36 am
    Now? Yaoi was always about rape. It started as rape. Idk where you got that idea from. If anything it changed in the past 10 years to more healthy stories agares

    I can literally count the number of BL manhwas that don't have rape. Most of the time, it's either shounen-ai or a story without explicit smut. Otherwise, there's almost always a fucking rape scene, whether it's the ML himself or some random side character who suddenly shows up just to rape the bottom.

    That's why I think it's become much more prevalent. Even among ongoing manhwas, you keep seeing it everywhere, whether it's The Flashlight, Cherry Blossoms After Winter, or others. It's not just about rape existing in BL; it's about how frequently it's included, how graphically it's portrayed, and how often it's romanticized or used as a convenient plot device.

    agares October 11, 2026 3:11 am
    I can literally count the number of BL manhwas that don't have rape. Most of the time, it's either shounen-ai or a story without explicit smut. Otherwise, there's almost always a fucking rape scene, whether it'... Jxxxx

    Well if it's been a part of the genre for so long and all these stories with rape tend to be top 3 everywhere maybe it's cause people like it why would they keep doing something the audience doesn't like? And you're exaggerating. We have plenty of green flag stories, I scroll past them all the time to find something to read. You're just not looking enough/only looking at the popular ones

    azlinnara October 11, 2026 7:33 am
    Well if it's been a part of the genre for so long and all these stories with rape tend to be top 3 everywhere maybe it's cause people like it why would they keep doing something the audience doesn't like? And ... agares

    u out there still defending it lmao

    agares October 11, 2026 7:42 am
    u out there still defending it lmao azlinnara

    Idk who you are but I'll defend my toxic waste slop forever

    Jxxxx October 11, 2026 8:10 am
    Well if it's been a part of the genre for so long and all these stories with rape tend to be top 3 everywhere maybe it's cause people like it why would they keep doing something the audience doesn't like? And ... agares

    You sure are delusional, aren't you? You keep saying there are plenty of green-flag stories, so can you actually name them? How many BL manhwas released in 2026 have genuinely healthy relationships and absolutely no rape, whether it's committed by the ML or some random side character? Can you count them and compare that number with the stories that explicitly depict rape, often graphically?

    From what I've personally read, I can barely count two or three that don't include it. I've even read so-called green-flag stories that still included rape committed by someone other than the ML. So, just because the ML is a green flag doesn't mean the story itself is free of rape.

    You're acting as if the existence of some healthy stories automatically disproves the concern about how frequently rape appears in BL. It doesn't. And I'm clearly not the only one noticing this; multiple readers in these very comments have pointed out the same trend. Instead of dismissing everyone as newgens or claiming we're simply not looking hard enough, maybe acknowledge the actual criticism. Saying there are plenty of green-flag stories isn't proof that they're proportionally as common as stories featuring rape. If you're so sure, name them and compare the numbers instead of just making vague claims.