when they start to live together again. don't remember which chapter's it was. but yeas, he did order him around - A LOT!! it was soo annoying XD and I thought Subin will keep forgive him cause "love", but surpise he didn't. it really surpise me XD
the point I was trying to make is that Subin will never forget his first love, has crual it might be to hyung. this is a relationship they both wanted to keep knowing this and accapt it has it is, knowing that it will never be like "what if" Subin come back to his "first" perfect love. and I think it's okay, it fine this way. who said he have to forget everything and come to relationship clean with no old love's? every relationship is stressful. I think what was is very good in this story is what you willing to compromise with all the advantages and disadvantages. in the end of the day, whatever Subin would have choose would have advantages and disadvantages. to me has a reader, I preffer supportive relationship.
Hyunwoo was abusive, that how I see him and that how he felt to me from the start until very very late in this story and only then he change a little too late. yeas "come back now" like he was his dog is the way to go when you worry for your friends - okay. whatever you say. I don't agree with you, but well think what you want ╮(￣▽￣)╭ I won't argue about it. I just don't agree.
so in the end, I don't think it that sad. realistic yeas, but sad.....mm not really. I would have been more sad if Subin would choose to forgive everything Hyunwoo did to him and will blindly stay with him with his "love" to him.
The problem is that it is taxing on all of them, i realize that Hyung is willing to put up with Subin not loving him, but that doesn't make it any less sad. Both Subin and Hyunwoo lose out on a best friend as well. Also, you'll have to point out specific instances so i can look at them and analyze them. You saying "a lot." and "when they 1st started living together" doesn't tell me what instances upset you specifically.
mm taxing? you mean toxic? I don't think it toxic, cause like I said Subin do love Hyung. but in a different way. I"m not bitter about Subin and Hyunwoo losing firendship, cause I never felt they had much friendship left after he left him. and I never felt it was a "true" friendship, since Subin always the one loving him one sidely. I feel Hyunwoo and Subin games was more toxic.
take into account I read it the first it come out, and I can't remember all the chapters. I only remember that when Subin and Hyunwoo live together after he come back, after two years?, it wasn't a building Relationship. it was unbalence and unhealthy Relationship, that hurt both of them. and that Hyunwoo usued to order him around, do that , cook that, I want you to do that.
You're admitting yourself that you don't remember the story, i'm going to be upfront, i don't remember Hyunwoo ever being cruel to Subin outside of when he was rejecting his advances and i don't remember him ordering Subin around at all. You should read back, just to check that things are as you remember them. That is an honest, genuine suggestion and not meant to be patronizing. I remember the beginning pretty well, i remember the entire manga to a pretty okay degree, but i don't remember the things you're saying happened happening.
look, I won't start to talk about little things that happen in this story, cause it don't matter. I said my point, if you don't believe me that fine, it your choice, but I do remember the story.
you can read it again cause he did order him around, for the more Details "orders" he give him look in the mange, I remember it piss me off! you maybe seen orders like a dog has a "cute" friend thing, maybe. but I don't, I hated it from the start! I won't answer anymore.
Um... Okay? If you weren't interested in dialogue then why leave such a stong reply? Bye, i guess?
Kudos to you my friend in your answers I saw so much respect for story and no I dont mean other party is not respectful but I really like How you conduct yourself
Thank you (●'◡'●)ﾉ
I know i might be late but i just want to say i love you!! We share the same sentiments my friend! I actually avoid reading the comments section since it always hurts me to see hyunwoo get bashed like he's the only bad guy here. Like you say something in defense of hyunwoo and you wont get a warm response. Good thing i found the courage today to check the comments and then i saw you & the no. of upvotes you have! You and i are not alone haha! As much as i want hyunwoo & subin to be together it the end, seems like the author decided to take the opposite way. Myb bc its easier? It will take a few more chaps if she will focus now on hyunwoo & his feelings for subin. Its just sad that subin will never know what hyunwoo is thinking. Oh well. Anyway, the epilogue will be released tomorrow. I already know how the story will end but my heart is not yet prepared to be broken, again.
It's great knowing that other people understand my viewpoint and relate, thank you too! ヾ(☆▽☆)
Not everything you like is good for you. Sometimes you need to help yourself by letting go of some things. There are so many factors to consider in why hyunwoo and subin shouldn’t be in a relationship. Hyunwoo is selfish, subin was too at point but he owned up to it and started setting boundaries for himself. Hyunwoo doesn’t care about subin feelings, he’s used to ever going his way and people liking him but not the other way around, to the extent that when he was invited into a couples home, he tried to break their relationship. That’s really disrespectful and shows he truly doesn’t care about subin as feelings. Yes subin doesn’t completely not like him anymore but he also likes Jun and cares about him. He’s still going to be attached to hyunwoo because he liked him for so long and literally lived with him after all. But what do you think would have happened if he got to kiss subin? He would break up with jun and they’d live happily ever after? I know it’s just fiction but think maturely lol
If we look at the very end, after all the character growth, they definitely would have been able to date. Hyunwoo was always the issue, he no longer was, but Subin had started this thing with Hyung and chose him basically because of guilt.
You're saying "not everything you like is good for you" when the point of my post was that at the end of the day, AFTER EVERYTHING, nobody looks happy. There is no silver lining, it's just a bitter ending tbh. Everyone settled and Subin still feels like he's just running away because he's too scared after years of Hyunwoo hurting his feelings to try that one last time.
Do you read the internal statements at all? Lol it’s your opinion imma just leave you to think that.
Okay... honestly, you just asked "how are Subin and Jun not good for each other?" under someone else's comment so i don't think a genuine conversation would be possible with you anyways.
It doesn't feel like Subin's feelings for Hyunwoo were at all handled or concluded. Don't get me wrong, i have no issues with Subin X Hyung or Subin X anyone for that matter, as long as everyone is happy, but it doesn't feel like anyone is happy. Subin still seems hung up on Hyunwoo and even looked miserable choosing Hyung, Hyunwoo finally admitted his feelings for Subin only to be left alone and without a best friend and Hyung seems just as insecure in their relationship as ever... Do people realize how much Subin and Hyunwoo lose out on going down the Hyung route? Subin is literally planning on never seeing Hyunwoo again, and he isn't okay with it either. Neither is Hyunwoo. They were best friends for YEARS, it must be like losing an arm. Honestly, the fact that Subin can't face Hyunwoo anymore to the point of needing to cut ties with him entirely for his relationship with Hyung to work is just plain worrying. He literally can't trust himself to be involved to even a casual degree with Hyunwoo and is forcing himself to choose Hyung. I feel like he would've been happier with Hyunwoo, sorry not sorry? He had to let go of a really important person in his life, someone who's presence he'd taken for granted would always be there. I mentioned this in a previous post as well, but i'm really irritated with the state of the Subin X Hyunwoo route too... Subin was pushing SO hard and when his efforts FINALLY bore fruit he had already decided to run away from Hyunwoo, and yes, it was FOR SURE running away in the beginning and in my opinion it is still running away. Hyunwoo had FINALLY been forced to admit his growing feelings, it was a YEARS long build up with Subin fighting hard the entire time only for him to not give Hyunwoo a shot when he'd finally succeeded. Idk, just dissatisfied.