What are things that make you instantly put down a yaoi? For me it's incest (even not bloo...

eh..thats like 80% of yaoi ╮(￣▽￣)╭ for me would be child abuse ╥﹏╥

If the dude looks like a lady

Sadly yes and eheheh like I understand if it's a character back story

Too many oh way too many

Shotacon

I'm probably the pickiest reader ever.

Rape/abuse turned to love trope - Pet/owner - Dom/Sub kink
Shotacon/ pedo
Flurry
Omegauniverse/ Mpreg stuff
Incest
Uke looks and behaves like a girl
Uke is supposed to be an adult but has the stature and face of a preteen.

That means 99% of Yaoi stories are out of my shelf.

Adultery, pedo and a few more i cant think of ┑(￣Д ￣)┍

is looking like a girl that degrading?

majority of yaoi is rape? ┑(￣Д ￣)┍
If I want to put a standard, I'd just read literature. I kind of turn it off when reading yaoi smut. In other words I have a veeeeery large threshold in BL. BUT if we are talking about plot, I frown at incest and adult x minor sex with super wide age gap.

I'm not the same anon who posted that but I have the same pet peeve with yaoi stories who make the uke look like a girl so I'll add my bit if you don't mind.
It is degrading when:
- it's done based on a stereotype of gay couples. It's not a coincidence that it's always the uke who is made look like a girl. Where this association comes from? From the very archaic and prejudiced idea that no real men would accept the role of being fucked by another man. Thus the trope of creating ukes that are resemble girls as much as possible or the so called 'chicks with dicks'. Another proof of this stereotype is that very few couples in Yaoi are sekes because who would believe a 'girl looking' guy to be a top?
- It's done based on a stereotype of girls in relationships. Again, it's always the uke who takes the appearance of girl and most of the time the girly uke is written with very stereotyped ideas of women. They are naive, submissive, they are abused, forgiving, they are the ones who blush and they are almost always the ones being chased.
10 out of 10 stories with gay men in Yaoi that has one of the partners looking like a girl do it to fit into the stereotypes above.
The problem is not that one of the guy looks like a girl but the reason why the story needed to make him look like one and that's what makes the representation degrading.

Thank you for explaining it to me! Cuz I was honestly asking why that opinion.
We actually think the same tho if those stereotypes aren't included and if a guy is a typical normal uke just feminine, I don't mind at all.

I honestly wish more yaoi avoided this it would make for such an interesting story. I hate that there are pretty much no sekes the role of uke is oh this guy is shorter or looks more like a girl, even though those things are simply not a factor. The stereotype type is so untrue of course there are couples that follow it but most at least from my experience aren't. I love the way you phrased this and personally agree with all of it

interesting. (๑•ㅂ•)و✧ lots of fujoshi had this view as i notice but i'm probably one of the few who are okay with "chicks with dicks" though not as much as i love my manly couples. i think they are cute tho.

Realistic rape. Bad pace. Shallow plot and characters (=boring). I've dropped a few mangas like that.

i feel bad when i read this comment XD



plz dont kill meh i actually enjoy most of the stuff you just listed ;-;'
if i were to be honest, i would immediately put down a yaoi if all they ever do is have... you know... sex. like, window to window had a good plot, but after a while, all they did was just have sex. it was kinda disappointing. I like interesting plots and what not, having a dark back story would actually be very appealing to me. I also dont like it when the plot doesn't move. All they do is avoid each other and nothing happens. Whelp, thats all i got to say. GTG DO HW YO

good plan boi. I should try it. ヾ(☆▽☆)

A lack of communication i have to think of A Guy like you webtoon xD

sadly, but that describes Killing Stalking. There is absolutely no yaoi as far as what I am reading from Killing Stalking. （￣へ￣）

Whoops I replied to the wrong person! （/TДT)/ (⊙…⊙ )

XD I CAN RELATE BOII