If it's not okay why is it allowed? :V If it was meant to be used as you say there would be a section that asks us why we are thumbing the person down. Kinda like a report button. Certain manga on here would have comment sections filled to the brim with petty fanbrats if it wasn't for the option to thumb down and hopefully remove them.
Are you really asking? There used to be a Report option, but guess what people couldn't figure out how to use that and abused that too. Just because something is available and can be used, doesn't mean that you are using it the way it should be used. And if people overuse and abuse something they might lose the use of it. Or to put it another way, sure you have option of crossing the street against the light during rush hour but you'd be an idiot to use it. "Fanbrats"?? that is the justification you're going to use for why anybody else with perfectly innocent or just normally critical comments gets disliked? I can't recall any cases of intolerant dislikes having anything to do with a "Fanbrat".
what do you expect? we are filled with little girls here.
I don't think that light analogy works. You could be killed or severely hurt at least. Nothing will happen to the people who thumb down only the one who got thumbed down gets their feelings hurt. If they are getting thumbed down to the point of removal majority rules: their opinion is literally not wanted.
While i see your point why can't you also say this to those who click the thumbs up? While thumbs up is allowed, thumbs down is not (publicly)? You're kind of implying that. We have individuality and of course we tend to have different opinions. Just think of it like this, if you saw a comment that you don't like and someone likes it, you beg to disagree with them since they "agree" with the comment that you don't like? Or vice versa. Just because they thumbed it down doesn't mean they always meant it offensively. Just that says you're judging a lot of people when it can also mean I disagree with you but i don't really ignore your point. While i do see those who sometimes says unfair to the point of being ignorant and rude things, well it's their own downfall someday and their own choice, at the end of the day they are just a stranger behind the screen which you won't even care after a day or 2.
P.S. i did not click the thumb down/disagree button neither did i click the thumbs up and i am open to your opinion. No hate :)
I do think some people use the dislike button incorrectly, but it is their decision. I'm a fangirl of BTS and we get so much hate here, but I don't hate others for disliking or dissing us. They just don't have anything better to do and don't care to express their opinion in a way that's not insulting to us. But that's their choice. Although I respect their choices it doesn't mean I'll respect their opinion since they don't respect mine and bash it. But there are many annoying little girls/boys who don't get the concept of opinions. I mean to say, just because they don't agree with you or hate on you doesn't mean they hate you literally, they take everything thing to heart and feel saddened when thier posts and opinions are disliked. They just got to realize that their opinion won't matter to the ones disliking, so that means the disliker's opinion shouldn't matter to you. It'd be nice if we all could get along and not hate on innocent comments/questons. But the world doesn't work like that. Haters are going to hate on the things they dislike. You've just got to move on. To me, buttons are harmless (though they may bruise confidence sometimes if taken to heart), but words, words are the one thing that can really bring a person down. But if people are bashing, either ignore them and move on cause their opinion shouldn't matter to you if they aren't trying to understand your opinion as well, or just say straight out, don't take it to heart. Dislike or no dislike people will find ways to express themselves so I find the button harmless. It is just a button. ╮(￣▽￣)╭ Sorry if this is long and got a little off track, or just plainly doesn't make sense 'cause I have trouble explaining things sometimes.
Oh right because the "majority" always knows best...yeah right. Like the concept of trolls didn't exist. Or should I mention those "Fanbrats" who won't tolerate anyone saying anything the least bit critical of their darling manga? Why should reasonable people expressing a perfectly legitimate POV not have the right to do so if they, unlike those who love everything, while liking the manga overall do see some faults, get thumbed down for expressing that POV? Or indeed not have a right to dislike what some people may like? It is kind of like bullying. You have to like it or we'll thumb you down. It isn't like they do the opposite and thumb up every comment they like, just the ones they really like. But anything that they dislike....and you can always assume that likely there will be more people liking the manga reading than not. So willfully going on in a manner that you know hurts other people online and trying to justify with stupid "majority rule" concept is rationalizing doing something mean because a lot of other people do it.
Normally if I disagree with what someone wrote I reply and explain why. As I wrote in my OP thumbs down is not the same as disagreeing! It is disliking. You're disliking that the person made that comment, which also in a sense means you feel they shouldn't have. I think it very rude to disagree with someone, anyway, without saying why. Unlike when you agree....(or like)
Nah- I generally feel the same way and mostly ignore the thumbs down myself. Sometimes I have told others the exact same thing. But every now and then I'll see a comment which has so obviously been thumbed down for the wrong reasons, and I just feel like this forum needs to have this debate again. Just why are we thumbing people down and for what? If having an opinion different from the norm is going to get you thumbed down massively, then this system just wants us to be sheeple.
Yep i agree with the part that you don't like those who disagree with someone without saying their point. But well there are people out there. So you mean those people who act like they know it all and disagree because they think their opinion is the right one and a person shouldn't have commented something that contradicting their opinion? That type of disagreeing? I don't know if I'm being stupid right now haha are or we on the same page already?
That's exactly the kind I mean!
Ohhh yess i hate this type of people sometimes i wanna tell then to get a life but oh well, as I said on my first reply that at the end of the day, we are all strangers behind a screen and i won't care about you after a day or even after a few minutes. So I don't pay attention to them yes i read it but at the same time I'm thinking that it's not my business and why would i let some stranger validate me or something hahaha anyway it's also yoyr freedom to complain about them haha it was nice chatting with you!
Just as people have the right to critical opinions, people also have the right to dislike a comment since it express an opinion too even though you don't like it.
But I do agree that sometimes I see a "dislike" on a question about manga and wonder why it's there because it's not really relevant. '^'
As long as the dislike is relevant, it's okay.
Perhaps the difference is I don't DISLIKE people having an opinion that disagrees with mine, I RESPECT that. If I disagree, I reply and let them know why, and if I can't be bothered then I shouldn't bother them with my opinion. Otherwise it is the equivalent of saying "you're wrong" but giving no reason, and people can be awfully petty and childish in why they dislike something. While you may not be wrong in principle, it kind of ignores a lot of what is actually going on in reality out there and gives that petty conduct more dignity than it deserves.
There's a lot a young people here, and I don't really expect them to be able to give complete arguments to justify their thumbs down.
Sure, it's better to reply with a comment, but a thumbs down is not so bad in my opinion.
Don't underestimate young people. They can express themselves when they want to. They may not have the best arguments, but that certainly beats having none at all. And I should think forums like this would be a perfect place to learn how to have friendly and respectful disagreement about something and to argue your POV. While we may not always agree on the merits of an individual manga, we're all here because we really like manga and that is what we all share.
BTW- It isn't my intention to argue that thumbing down is always wrong, bad or mean. In some cases it is deserved. In others the person can explain. But I think exactly because we sit behind screens and rely so much on typed communication it is better if we make darn sure that the other person understands what we meant by the signal we sent. If you care so much about rights and principles, well so do I, especially about consideration for others and good manners. They may not be rights per se but they are certainly principles, and in my opinion more important ones.
Yeah, they are able to write a proper comment, but many young people are too lazy to bother and write arguments. '^' Taping on the like/dislike button is the easiest and quickest way to "voice out" your opinion.
I'm quite aware that people have posted on the subject before saying more or less the same thing, but for some reason people keep thumbing down the most innocent and inane comments (and do leave people hurt by it). But I suppose what gets me is when people thumb down comments that they just don't like. I've heard the arguments, thumbing down is the same as disagreeing. It ISN'T. Thumbs up/down = like/dislike, which means that when you thumb down someone you dislike their comment. Or to put it in another way, if you like a manga but someone else has a critical opinion and you dislike that publicly, you are in sense disliking their right to a critical opinion of what you like. It is why I rarely use a thumbs down vs a thumbs up, their meaning is in no way equal. I can understand thumbing down crude, offensive, or even poorly argued comments (though that should be explained), but I really hate that so many on this forum thinks it ok to dislike anything that just doesn't agree with their own opinion. Get more tolerant!!