It’s because Hayato did the same thing. If you remember at first he didn’t get along with his brother and dislikes gay but get curious and did it with his bro’s boyfriend certainly because it was convenient for him.
I think he's refering to the fact that hayato practically ruined his life, his parents got divorced, his brother disowned,They are afraid that he is also gay, and all that because hayato slept with his brother, even when he was his own brother's boyfriend. So in a way, he does owe him.
No he doesn't... Are you a child? All three of them acted consentually, the only one who was being an asshole was dude's brother for two-timing both brothers. It shows that Hayato was in love with dude's brother, it says he made the same face around him as he does around Kazunori. He slept with the guy he likes... and it hasn't said that he knew that the guy was his brother's boyfriend. Putting ALL that aside, lets pretend that everything went as you think it did, everyone AGREED to have sex knowing the possible consequences, how is it Hayato's fault that they got caught and the consequences happened? It's more like the parents' own fault for splitting up and wrecking their family over their son's sexuality... Even if their older son is gay and they chose to disown him, they have a responsibility to their younger son whom they have no reason to assume is gay. The PARENTS are responsible for the divorce, THEY are the ones who decided that their disgust at their gay son was enough to break up over and shun their youngest...
Are you a child? All three of them acted consentually, the only one who was being an asshole was dude's brother for two-timing both brothers. It shows that Hayato was in love with dude's brother, it says he made the same face around him as he does around Kazunori. He slept with the guy he likes... and it hasn't said that he knew that the guy was his brother's boyfriend. Putting ALL that aside, lets pretend that everything went as you think it did, everyone AGREED to have sex knowing the possible consequences, how is it Hayato's fault that they got caught and the consequences happened? It's more like the parents' own fault for splitting up and wrecking their family over their son's sexuality... Even if their older son is gay and they chose to disown him, which THEY chose to do, not Hayato, they have a responsibility to their younger son whom they have no reason to assume is gay. The PARENTS are responsible for the divorce and their family crashing, THEY are the ones who decided that their disgust at their gay oldest son was enough to break up over, disown their son and shun their youngest...
Even if Hayato did the same thing, it doesn't mean that Hayato went up to his bro's bf and said the same thing. It still doesn't give the brother of his ex the reason to say "And you have no right to reject me", and the reason to basically say that Hayato's body isn't Hayato's but his.
Me being a child has nothing to do with the topic nor with my comment either. You want to look so mature yet you sounded rude and insolent, just like a brat. that to start so watch your mouth.
ofc we don't know yet if hayato knew that the guy was his brother's boyfriend, but even if he didn't what i said was that all the things that happened in that guy life was because of / as a consecuence of hayato sleeping with his brother.
If his brother was two timing, that's another thing. The consecuences are there, they parents divorced, the guy was disowned, hayato's relationship with his brother got broken, etc, etc, etc. All those things woudn't had happened if it wasn't because they were discovered sleeping together.
Obviously it could had had the same result if his brother were found out sleeping with some other guy, yet it was hayato.
You say that hayato knowing the guy was his broher's boyfriend doesn't change anything? for real? even if he was just "sleeping with the guy he likes" if the guy you like is your brother's boyfriend and even knowing that you sleep with him, well we have some problems there bc you are purposely ruining their relationship and getting in the middle, you cannot expect there to be no consequences (calm your ass, we still don't know how things went)
Obviously that hayato has the right to say no, bc it's his body and he's the one who decides with who he want to sleep and with who he don't. I never said otherwise.
But i said that IN A WAY if you look at the complete panorama(as a consecuence of his behaviour, his agreement to sleep one day with this guy) and because of how things happened he's (and his brother's boyfriend ofc) kind of responsible of what happened afterwards.
"he owes him one" in that sense, bc the guy's life DID got ruined because of them and that is a fact.
OFC their parents are both responsible for everything that happend in their lifes yet the trigger of all their family problems (this guy's, and even hayato's problems with his own brother) WAS hayato sleeping with his brother's boyfriend. or if you want to say the other way, was because this guy was sleeping with hayato. (two timing or not)
Yeah, i didn't read past the 1st sentence because i could see you were going to be passive-aggressive and i dont feel like playing games... Look hon, i call shit how i see it and your shit was very visible. I called you a child because what you wrote was immature at best, and i mean that in the truest sense of the word possible. You sound naive, like you don't look past things, all you see is that Urabe is hurting and that he blames Hayato so you just got mad at him too. If you actually read the manga you can see that there isn't even enough evidence givin so far to say Hayato is responsible for any of that.
Well, from the very beggining you just interpreted whatever you wanted, and then you came attacking me based on your poor interpretation. When i bothered explaining what i was trying to say you simply didn't read, so i wonder what are you even doing here?
Unlike you I wasn't disrespectful in my very fisrt coment that btw it was never directed at you, i was just comenting the topic yet you came at me looking for problems so you are demonstrating that you are the brat here.
And just to let you know i never was "mad" at hayato. wtf, that's your lack of reading comprehension talking not me. Now go back to your cave, troll.
Ugh such a nasty person.
@Umaru_Hitachiin i'm sorry we ruined your post, feel free to delete everything if it bothers you.
"i'm not the brat, you're the brat!"... ╮(￣▽￣)╭
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Don't worry, you didn't ruin my post at all, so don't worry about it :D
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Its a matter of responsibility ...i think(?)
I think what he meant to say was "My life turned to shit because of you and now u have to take responsibility for what u have caused and pay for it ! "(with his body lol)
Hehehe, "Sans" wants the MC to take responsibility for the damage he has caused. -megalovania-ヾ(☆▽☆)
DO YOU WANNA HAVE A BAD TIME !?
*left eye glows blue*
((Haha..glad to knw someone whos familiar with undertale..im so touched heh))(▰˘◡˘▰)
"And you have no right to reject me" Excuuuuse me? Uh, when did you own him? Did you buy him with money? He's not yours for I don't remember you ever dating nor having any fucking reason to tell him oh you have no right to reject me. Let me tell you this, 1) He does have a right to reject you, 2) You're a fucking low bastard who's going to blackmail him, and 3) Why does it have to be him huh? You could literally go and get yourself a fucking one night stand and go find out your orientation that way. "I need to find out if I'm gay or not so have sex with me" Such bullshit and shitty reasoning to get him to have sex with you I must say.