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tokidoki May 1, 2015 7:20 am

Hmmm...I think that the 'annoying' button is getting overused on this page - I mean really, some of the most innocuous comments are being marked as annoying, why? If someone does not agree with a comment, why not post a rebuttal instead of using that button? I think the intention of the 'annoying' button was to help eliminate abusive text, spam and trolling, not to disagree with a comment.

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    name May 1, 2015 7:58 am

    It can discourage certain behaviors, like if someone is being obnoxious about updates..

    one of the most annoying things for me is when people complain/urge about intimacy between characters when it's completely up to the author how the story develops, hopefully people will stop after their comments get marked as annoying

    Alice May 1, 2015 10:48 am

    Tokidoki, from the looks of it it wasn't random, but seems most likely to have been directed towards a particular person whose posting of new threads over other minutes was becoming rather annoying to a great any people. Also, said person's reaction/attitude/arrogance in a recent response seems to have ruffled a few feathers as of late from the looks of it. But that's only a guess. *shrugs*

    But by definition and name the "annoying" button is exactly that. To express that one finds a post annoying. Like, as name mentioned, people whining about update length or frequency. Or people posting "Do you know this manga?" threads on 30 different boards here, including Viewfinder, because they can't be bothered to do so on the main page (and that's mostly the same person). Or said person mentioned above for the reason's above.

    I have only ever used the button once here, and that was on some homophobe slur. But I can fully understand that in the cases mentioned above people find post and people's attitude towards others here annoying and execute their right to express that.

    Lyre May 1, 2015 12:47 pm

    I too noticed what you were talking about. I think that the fact that more than five people (eleven people at least, last time I checked) resorted to thumbing down the comments of one particular user, was something which could have been easily predicted.
    Waiting eagerly for an update is a situation which creates tension so if a particular fan sees the comments and topics of the same user spread everywhere, the inevitable will come: pressing the "annoying" button.

    If we add to that the fact that most people would label as "bragging" or "showing off" or looking down on others, the behavior of boosting of one's presumed "knowledge", then the inevitable will come once again.

    Of course, I personally don't mind it because each person is free to create his own reality and project it outwards.

    This reality is his, it doesn't represent everyone. For instance, I solidly believe that pursuing academic degrees, post-graduate studies and learning more languages reveal the scope of our progress as human beings. This fact alone should create some sense of modesty (excluding the tendency to "show off") because the one who pursues such a path should realize that his knowledge is a very tiny, even infinitesimal, fraction of what hundreds and tens of thousands of people have already achieved since man started using alphabet.

    That being said I believe that everyone is free to say whatever he wants if it is not abusive or offensive. I am sure that all fans here appreciate the quality of sensei's astonishing drawings. This is at least a common thing between all of us and perhaps this aspect can lead us to be lenient and fair towards each other. What if you personally couldn't comment on your favorite manga because your comments are always marked as annoying? You'll be upset, right? So let's be lenient towards each other, we/you could just ignore a comment if you don't like its content.

    reponce May 1, 2015 12:48 pm
    Tokidoki, from the looks of it it wasn't random, but seems most likely to have been directed towards a particular person whose posting of new threads over other minutes was becoming rather annoying to a great a... @Alice

    towards a particular person? that's me! i posted 5 comments in row and i mentionned that i was excited to explain my behavior!, and i have noticed that's is not the point coz other have posted more than me but they wasn't deranged or upset! let me tell you that some of those people have two three alias, if you judge that someone is annoying you just pass and ignorehis his posting, here is the unique place where the fans act like they own this spot! tell you it's enough or u posted a lot or act like supervisor! in youtube i heve seen 2, 3 pages discution beetween only two pepole they are free to post their throught opinion ,it's silly ! mangago is not their property! their bad behaviour including insult can spoiled ur enthusiasm, but it's not my case, they don't own mangago and i'am free to express my opinion without hurting or hates.

    J Unleashed May 1, 2015 1:27 pm

    Well said, Tokidoki!

    From what I see, the "annoying" button (particularly in the VF forum) is turning into a tool for bullying.

    Alice May 1, 2015 6:06 pm
    towards a particular person? that's me! i posted 5 comments in row and i mentionned that i was excited to explain my behavior!, and i have noticed that's is not the point coz other have posted more than me but ... reponce

    But, reponce, that is just it. You didn't just post 5 comments. You practically littered this place. There were easily about 40, 50 comments and new threads within as little as two days, all by you. You also posted major spoilers when the majority of people here had not even seen the new chapter.

    It was suggested to you that you should please stop posting spoilers and that, and I'm quoting by memory here, rather than post every few minute to make lesser, longer posts with your impressions. Nobody wants you to stop posting. But your spamming of the board like that was indeed very annoying, inconsiderate and disrespectful of other people here. No, whowever thumbed you down doesn't own the place, reponce, but neither do you. Yet that is exactly how you behaved.

    You could have reflected on what was being said to you and have realized that people did indeed have a point there. Instead you ranted about how you were ever so superior with speaking four languages and preparing for your doctorate and your knowledge. So in addition to being inconsiderate to others you were also being incredibly arrogant and one has to wonder: If you think of yourself as that high and mighty, if you consider everyone to be a bunch of imbeciles, then why even come here?

    I'm sure all people wanted for you was to reign it in a little with the posts, to be a bit more respectful towards others and a little bit more humble about how your look upon yourself and how you present yourself to others.

    For what it's worth, there is more than one person with a much wider range of language proficiency here than yours, who also have more than one postgraduate degree and who could easily outdo you academically. But you don't hear them bragging about it.

    Just my two cents of worth. So by all means, reponce, keep on posting. But do it with thought (of which you say have a lot), consideration and moderation. And maybe an apology for your nasty bragging and the haughty attitude might also not be a bad idea.

    Again, I didn't thumb you down. But I can see why people did. It has been mentioned to me on LJ by quite a number of other people that they find your behavior here incredibly aggravating.

    So, just give this some thought please. I'm sure if you take this into consideration in the future, everything will be fine.

    tokidoki May 1, 2015 7:18 pm

    Hmmm...was fairly sure someone would give some thumbs down to this - even if it is a reasonable comment - come on people - this is probably the silliest behaviour on Mangago! Nothing offensive was said in any of these comments so think before you act! This is juvenile! *shake my head* I was hope people would be a little more adult, but I guess I was mistaken. Sigh, so much for reason.

    tokidoki May 1, 2015 7:20 pm
    Hmmm...was fairly sure someone would give some thumbs down to this - even if it is a reasonable comment - come on people - this is probably the silliest behaviour on Mangago! Nothing offensive was said in any o... tokidoki

    Erm, *hoping*, not 'hope' - silly autocorrect - forgot to turn it off.

    Miyanoai May 1, 2015 8:22 pm
    Erm, *hoping*, not 'hope' - silly autocorrect - forgot to turn it off. tokidoki

    I mean, you had a point. But it's also something that's worth discussing to avoid more conflict.

    Skye May 1, 2015 8:27 pm

    Oh God, @Alice, it's such a joy whenever I come across yet another person on this page with more than a small cluster of brain cells. I tip my hat to you, lovely lady! :)

    Asami May 1, 2015 8:31 pm

    Its true the dislike button is getting over used, but It probably just the trolls that roam this section.

    Lyre May 1, 2015 8:42 pm
    I mean, you had a point. But it's also something that's worth discussing to avoid more conflict. Miyanoai

    I agree with you. However a reasonable solution can only be reached if everyone wants to be mature about it like Tokidoki said but if pressing the "annoying" button is just done to bully, intimidate or ostracize, then that is a different matter. Under this topic there have been two sets of subjects: 1) addressing the annoying vote and 2) objections to reponce's behavior. If everyone is civilized about this, then the problem will be solved but if like Tokidoki pointed out, it is just an immature and juvenile behavior, doesn't that mean that the "annoying" vote will spread and increase to annoy everyone? Should we file a petition for a "liking" button besides the "annoying" button for comments to make things even?

    Anonymous May 1, 2015 8:49 pm
    Oh God, @Alice, it's such a joy whenever I come across yet another person on this page with more than a small cluster of brain cells. I tip my hat to you, lovely lady! :) @Skye

    LOL!!!! You do realise you just made the exactly the sort of comment @Alice was speaking against?

    Would you like to borrow some extra brain cells? I have spares.

    Lyre May 1, 2015 8:51 pm
    But, reponce, that is just it. You didn't just post 5 comments. You practically littered this place. There were easily about 40, 50 comments and new threads within as little as two days, all by you. You also po... @Alice

    I like it that you are straightforward and don't beat around the bush and though I agree with you on the part of "For what it's worth (...) But you don't hear them bragging about it", but isn't it a little bit too harsh on her? She didn't say it to everyone, she only said it to the person who used foul language with her. She was insulted first, provoked then she said that to the anonymous person in question. Hence, the way I see it they are even "tit for tat", unless the person who insulted her with "f*ck you* and the rest of the foul language wants to apologize first (this is however a different matter from the excessive posting on which I agree!).

    reponce May 1, 2015 10:44 pm
    But, reponce, that is just it. You didn't just post 5 comments. You practically littered this place. There were easily about 40, 50 comments and new threads within as little as two days, all by you. You also po... @Alice

    40, 50 comments u extra exaggerate! other made the same amount of comment but they didn’t thumps her/him down, I posted a spoiler when they hadn’t seen the chapter? Everyone was waiting for a news if u r honest enough tell me that u didn’t read sleepy summary or saw the same day the chap in raw! not the same day but a few minutes after my “spoiler” was posted, other reader I don’t recall who she is posted that the hooded man isn’t yuri but all people give to her thumps up! lightasus said the same comment about the bomb but they thumps her up , it’s two weights two measures but I don’t care really, u r free to do what u want.
    I write that I was too excited coz all what I thought was their even an exit from the roof, three entrances it must be an exit from the roof that’s what I thought, assassins talking was hearing through a camera, the wrong translation about “keep quiet” …… all those points were coming as gradually I was reading!
    Reflected! I was insulting and the second comment say to me that’s enough already! like a mother to her child! I reply to anonymous who said get a life like she knows who I am or what I a do ? bragging about myself ? she said to me get a life i just write what I do in my life. Superior? The reply wasn’t for u ,she insulted me and i reply to her if u feel target I am not responsible! Why I came here? its my business u don’t have the right to tell me this. see it's like what i said like u own this place??
    U can see why they thump me down? well I don’t, I was specific it was a reply for anonymous, and I can assure u she has more than one alias so she can thumb me down a lot of time! You can’t speak about what’s in people mind coz u don’t absolutely know them they can express themselves we are free as long as not hurting people feelings.

    Skye May 1, 2015 11:17 pm

    Dear Anonymous, honey, (since I can only assume you are talking about my comment) it seems we're having a communication issue: I was complimenting @Alice for her comment, in essence, I'm agreeing with everything she said. Also, I'm stating that she's above average when it comes to most of the people who frequent this page, instead of resorting to foul language to try to get her point across, she used her brain to produce an articulate, mature reply.

    So, you may keep your brain cells, sweetie, I'm sure you can put them to better use. :)

    @reponce May 1, 2015 11:28 pm

    dear god, you hopeless creature...your comments are some of the most asinine I've seen on this board, your logic is that of a drunk 3 year-old... and what is this I hear about you supposedly rubbing your intelligence in our noses? yeah, NO. go to bed, child, keep on dreamin'.

    Lightasus May 2, 2015 12:17 am

    Seriously, I can't believe reponce posting a bunch of comments is affecting some people's lives that much.

    Anonymous May 2, 2015 12:19 am
    40, 50 comments u extra exaggerate! other made the same amount of comment but they didn’t thumps her/him down, I posted a spoiler when they hadn’t seen the chapter? Everyone was waiting for a news if u r h... reponce

    Dear, if you show your comments to your university, I'm sure they will entitle you a full refund on your degree(s)

    Shadowoverthemoon May 2, 2015 12:22 am
    Seriously, I can't believe reponce posting a bunch of comments is affecting some people's lives that much. Lightasus

    Whenever I come to this site and scroll through these comments, I see half of it filled with yours. Comments affect people even if its the most menial