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I will never understand the phenomenon of this author. The art is good although there are ...

Anonymous December 9, 2020 10:22 pm

I will never understand the phenomenon of this author.
The art is good although there are better out there. And these days most stories have good art.
This author created such a badly written story as AGLY, everyone was promising how they will never touch anything from this author...and magically their another work which is most likely as bad as their former one is already so overrated and hyped?

To people who believe author will adres Yahwi's abusive behaviour, rapes etc: Pfff the naivety...if we will get one apologize then consider it a fuckin victory.
Cain is fanservice, cheap plot device. His chances are z e r o.

Responses
    Terry December 10, 2020 1:04 pm
    Yes dense, bc some of y'all can't separate reality from a story. This isn't about criticizing the author for poor writing, if that's what you want to do then go ahead. But you cannot apply real life norms and l... Issa Me Mario

    But he couldn't have known that. Then author should have made him mind reader or something. It's illogical line of defence.

    It's just typical for yaoi to belittle sexual assaults and abuse. Nothing less, nothing more.

    This author most likely won't comment on any of Yahwi's abusive behaviour. As OP said we should consider a simplistic "sorry" a victory.

    Also even if he knows that Jooin is into him it doesn't change the fact that at the time he was INTOXICATED and saying no. Even if your spouse/partner is drunk and saying although they are normally into you, you shouldn't continue.

    Hidden desires don't mean anything in such circumstances and the fact that the author pretends differently doesn't change the fact. It's just simple ignorance.

    Terry December 10, 2020 1:05 pm
    But he couldn't have known that. Then author should have made him mind reader or something. It's illogical line of defence. It's just typical for yaoi to belittle sexual assaults and abuse. Nothing less, nothin... Terry

    And saying no*

    Issa Me Mario December 10, 2020 1:18 pm
    But he couldn't have known that. Then author should have made him mind reader or something. It's illogical line of defence. It's just typical for yaoi to belittle sexual assaults and abuse. Nothing less, nothin... Terry

    The author is the only one who decides what he can and cannot know. Again, you cannot apply real-life logic to a yaoi like this. If the author claims the sky is pink, it's pink, even tho we all know it isn't in real-life. Also if you're talking about their first time together, I don't understand why it matters that Jooin was drunk? Yahwi was drunk too and Jooin never said no. Are you claiming every drunk couple who has sex after a night out on the town are raping each other?

    Terry December 10, 2020 1:27 pm
    The author is the only one who decides what he can and cannot know. Again, you cannot apply real-life logic to a yaoi like this. If the author claims the sky is pink, it's pink, even tho we all know it isn't in... Issa Me Mario

    He said stop few times.
    Jooin was definitely more drunk judging by his clinical state.

    And yes if the other party is highly drunk (wobbling, dizzy etc) then you shouldn't sleep with such a person at all. Such contest can be invalid.
    In some countries the law is very strict about sleeping with someone who inder influence of alcohol and other substances.

    No author is just showing an ignorance and belittles sex abuse for spicy scenes.

    Terry December 10, 2020 1:32 pm
    He said stop few times.Jooin was definitely more drunk judging by his clinical state.And yes if the other party is highly drunk (wobbling, dizzy etc) then you shouldn't sleep with such a person at all. Such con... Terry

    Consent*

    Issa Me Mario December 10, 2020 1:52 pm
    He said stop few times.Jooin was definitely more drunk judging by his clinical state.And yes if the other party is highly drunk (wobbling, dizzy etc) then you shouldn't sleep with such a person at all. Such con... Terry

    But that's the thing. We all know dub-con elements is a major trope in asian romance entertainment, bc the stereotypical alpha male is by far a preference by the general audience and authors. Yaoi, BL, shoujo, you name it. It doesn't even have to be explicit content, PG-13 rated stories also feature stereotypical forceful male leads who pin someone against a wall for romantic effect and the female lead/uke secretly loves it (kabedon style). It's a kink/fetish/fantasy/preference of the author, NOT intended rape. The authors aren't writing their stories intending for one character to rape another, and that's important to remember simply bc you're never gonna be satisfied with the direction of the story if you keep interpreting it as such. It's not a kink for everyone, and that's fine, but there's nothing wrong with the author having said kinks and writing a story that features them. They can write what they want.

    Terry December 10, 2020 2:14 pm
    But that's the thing. We all know dub-con elements is a major trope in asian romance entertainment, bc the stereotypical alpha male is by far a preference by the general audience and authors. Yaoi, BL, shoujo, ... Issa Me Mario

    And we have a right to express our opinions?
    Rather simple
    I don't have anything against purely smut stories with rape but it gets tricky when the story has actual plot and sexual assaults, abuse and even rapes are belittled and brushed off as not a big deal.

    Sorry but after reading so many opinions of actual adults I'm not even sure if atuhors themselves are educated in that matter and fully recognize what sexual assault, abuse is.

    Terry December 10, 2020 2:16 pm
    But that's the thing. We all know dub-con elements is a major trope in asian romance entertainment, bc the stereotypical alpha male is by far a preference by the general audience and authors. Yaoi, BL, shoujo, ... Issa Me Mario

    We have many stories with brutal rape scenes where victim is even bleeding, screaming bloody murder, crying, begging to stop... But then few chapters later they are all lovey dovey with their abuser... So I wouldn't be so sure about "not intended rape".

    Terry December 10, 2020 2:22 pm
    But that's the thing. We all know dub-con elements is a major trope in asian romance entertainment, bc the stereotypical alpha male is by far a preference by the general audience and authors. Yaoi, BL, shoujo, ... Issa Me Mario

    But tbh is "not intended rape". Rape's definition is really SIMPLE.
    Then they have to be really ignorant if author doesn't understand that the scene when one party didn't give consent and is saying stop or no and shrugging.

    Terry December 10, 2020 2:23 pm
    But tbh is "not intended rape". Rape's definition is really SIMPLE. Then they have to be really ignorant if author doesn't understand that the scene when one party didn't give consent and is saying stop or no a... Terry

    Struggling*

    Terry December 10, 2020 2:28 pm
    But tbh is "not intended rape". Rape's definition is really SIMPLE. Then they have to be really ignorant if author doesn't understand that the scene when one party didn't give consent and is saying stop or no a... Terry

    But tbh what is *

    Issa Me Mario December 10, 2020 2:45 pm
    But tbh is "not intended rape". Rape's definition is really SIMPLE. Then they have to be really ignorant if author doesn't understand that the scene when one party didn't give consent and is saying stop or no a... Terry

    It's actually not really simple when it comes to storytelling, hence why a whole dub-con label was invented. You can express your opinion on the story, but I'm just telling you it's stupid to use real-life logic on a story and then get mad over the MC "getting raped by the main seme", then the MC himself doesn't even think of any of their sex as non-consensual. You're legit only setting yourself up by doing that and will never be satisfied with the direction the story goes in. Better to just drop the story if one can't accept the author's visions and intentions.

    Terry December 10, 2020 3:14 pm
    It's actually not really simple when it comes to storytelling, hence why a whole dub-con label was invented. You can express your opinion on the story, but I'm just telling you it's stupid to use real-life logi... Issa Me Mario

    No, I'm actually quite amuse how badly written it is.
    And you are mixing few things. Yes author can create completely different world but she has to explain its rules and how it differs from ours because if author doesn't do that then readers obviously look at the story through real-life pov and standards.
    And as I said even when rape is portrayed as brutal one, still the victims act as if nothing happened... It's just tasteless for some of us, it ridicules abuse and impact of the rape.

    Rape is either used by them as cheap and idiotic plot device which fasten things between characters instead of writing the whole process in its normal pace or used as kinky scene... But it destroys the story for many of us because it just looks absurdly idiotic.
    No one forbids author to write whatever they want but still we can express our opinion on that.

    BlueFairy December 10, 2020 4:03 pm
    No, I'm actually quite amuse how badly written it is.And you are mixing few things. Yes author can create completely different world but she has to explain its rules and how it differs from ours because if auth... Terry

    You can express your opinion there’s no need to argue with people who disagree and want to continue reading. If you aren’t ok with the plot/storyline that’s totally ok. Other people are and might want to talk about this manga in this space without people who hate it going on and on about how it isn’t right.

    Terry December 10, 2020 4:16 pm
    You can express your opinion there’s no need to argue with people who disagree and want to continue reading. If you aren’t ok with the plot/storyline that’s totally ok. Other people are and might want to ... BlueFairy

    I've just responded to the person who started calling people dense, idiotic, cunts etc because they expressed their not so positive opinion about the story or called rape rape... So I wouldn't say I'm not the bad guy here.
    I didn't attack anyone or used offensive words.

    Terry December 10, 2020 4:35 pm
    I've just responded to the person who started calling people dense, idiotic, cunts etc because they expressed their not so positive opinion about the story or called rape rape... So I wouldn't say I'm not the b... Terry

    I'm the bad guy*

    BlueFairy December 10, 2020 5:18 pm
    I've just responded to the person who started calling people dense, idiotic, cunts etc because they expressed their not so positive opinion about the story or called rape rape... So I wouldn't say I'm not the b... Terry

    You can definitely express your opinion but there’s no reason to stay and debate with people who enjoy and want to read this. If you don’t like it then you don’t have to go on and on about it. No one called you the bad guy.

    Terry December 10, 2020 5:26 pm
    You can definitely express your opinion but there’s no reason to stay and debate with people who enjoy and want to read this. If you don’t like it then you don’t have to go on and on about it. No one call... BlueFairy

    But it's not like I've created two hundreds posts and spam? I've responded under this post and 2 one.

    Imbackbeaches January 30, 2021 7:59 am

    It's all your fault. Now the author won't get new readers like me lmao