But he couldn't have known that. Then author should have made him mind reader or something. It's illogical line of defence.
It's just typical for yaoi to belittle sexual assaults and abuse. Nothing less, nothing more.
This author most likely won't comment on any of Yahwi's abusive behaviour. As OP said we should consider a simplistic "sorry" a victory.
Also even if he knows that Jooin is into him it doesn't change the fact that at the time he was INTOXICATED and saying no. Even if your spouse/partner is drunk and saying although they are normally into you, you shouldn't continue.
Hidden desires don't mean anything in such circumstances and the fact that the author pretends differently doesn't change the fact. It's just simple ignorance.
The author is the only one who decides what he can and cannot know. Again, you cannot apply real-life logic to a yaoi like this. If the author claims the sky is pink, it's pink, even tho we all know it isn't in real-life. Also if you're talking about their first time together, I don't understand why it matters that Jooin was drunk? Yahwi was drunk too and Jooin never said no. Are you claiming every drunk couple who has sex after a night out on the town are raping each other?
He said stop few times.
Jooin was definitely more drunk judging by his clinical state.
And yes if the other party is highly drunk (wobbling, dizzy etc) then you shouldn't sleep with such a person at all. Such contest can be invalid.
In some countries the law is very strict about sleeping with someone who inder influence of alcohol and other substances.
No author is just showing an ignorance and belittles sex abuse for spicy scenes.
But that's the thing. We all know dub-con elements is a major trope in asian romance entertainment, bc the stereotypical alpha male is by far a preference by the general audience and authors. Yaoi, BL, shoujo, you name it. It doesn't even have to be explicit content, PG-13 rated stories also feature stereotypical forceful male leads who pin someone against a wall for romantic effect and the female lead/uke secretly loves it (kabedon style). It's a kink/fetish/fantasy/preference of the author, NOT intended rape. The authors aren't writing their stories intending for one character to rape another, and that's important to remember simply bc you're never gonna be satisfied with the direction of the story if you keep interpreting it as such. It's not a kink for everyone, and that's fine, but there's nothing wrong with the author having said kinks and writing a story that features them. They can write what they want.
And we have a right to express our opinions?
Rather simple
I don't have anything against purely smut stories with rape but it gets tricky when the story has actual plot and sexual assaults, abuse and even rapes are belittled and brushed off as not a big deal.
Sorry but after reading so many opinions of actual adults I'm not even sure if atuhors themselves are educated in that matter and fully recognize what sexual assault, abuse is.
It's actually not really simple when it comes to storytelling, hence why a whole dub-con label was invented. You can express your opinion on the story, but I'm just telling you it's stupid to use real-life logic on a story and then get mad over the MC "getting raped by the main seme", then the MC himself doesn't even think of any of their sex as non-consensual. You're legit only setting yourself up by doing that and will never be satisfied with the direction the story goes in. Better to just drop the story if one can't accept the author's visions and intentions.
No, I'm actually quite amuse how badly written it is.
And you are mixing few things. Yes author can create completely different world but she has to explain its rules and how it differs from ours because if author doesn't do that then readers obviously look at the story through real-life pov and standards.
And as I said even when rape is portrayed as brutal one, still the victims act as if nothing happened... It's just tasteless for some of us, it ridicules abuse and impact of the rape.
Rape is either used by them as cheap and idiotic plot device which fasten things between characters instead of writing the whole process in its normal pace or used as kinky scene... But it destroys the story for many of us because it just looks absurdly idiotic.
No one forbids author to write whatever they want but still we can express our opinion on that.
You can express your opinion there’s no need to argue with people who disagree and want to continue reading. If you aren’t ok with the plot/storyline that’s totally ok. Other people are and might want to talk about this manga in this space without people who hate it going on and on about how it isn’t right.
I will never understand the phenomenon of this author.
The art is good although there are better out there. And these days most stories have good art.
This author created such a badly written story as AGLY, everyone was promising how they will never touch anything from this author...and magically their another work which is most likely as bad as their former one is already so overrated and hyped?
To people who believe author will adres Yahwi's abusive behaviour, rapes etc: Pfff the naivety...if we will get one apologize then consider it a fuckin victory.
Cain is fanservice, cheap plot device. His chances are z e r o.