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Might be an unpopular opinion, sorry

VENUS December 18, 2020 11:42 am

Idk how straight fujoshis can enjoy yaoi but not girl x boy romance like simply being one or the other does not make it worse or better than the other...both genres have their gems and their dumpster fires. I enjoy both (I’m bi so maybe that’s the reason or maybe not) I just don’t like when people generalize a whole genre like that

Simply not liking it cuz the prince is a girl instead of a boy is pretty silly cuz if she was a boy I don’t think the story would change much besides that she doesn’t have a secret to keep but some straight fujoshis just want everything to be yaoi so bad and sometimes just straight up hate women for whatever reason despite being women themselves (if this isn’t you, then I’m not talking about you so please don’t argue with me it would be pointless because even if you yourself aren’t it is indeed true for some fujoshis)

I can’t say much for the story itself since I haven’t read much yet, but anyways I just wanted to talk about this since people keep mistaking it for yaoi and getting annoyed in the comments

Responses
    Rebeca December 18, 2020 6:55 pm

    No your statement is right. It was kinda tricky how the cover looks like a yaoi or shounen ai cover, but I do not think its gonna be bad just cos its not between males, but I still like both yaoi and shounen ai.(⌒▽⌒)

    z4tan December 20, 2020 10:47 am

    it’s because the only reason they read bl Is for the mlm relationships and not because they actually care for the story at all. they are simply reading bl bc they fetishize mlm relationships which is nasty and since this is a straight story they find it “boring” even though the only difference it has from bl is that it’s a straight romance. ╮( ̄▽ ̄)╭

    Fangirlx December 20, 2020 12:03 pm
    it’s because the only reason they read bl Is for the mlm relationships and not because they actually care for the story at all. they are simply reading bl bc they fetishize mlm relationships which is nasty a... z4tan

    Umm please don’t generalize all of us.. it’s quite rude to people like me that do not fetishize bxb relationships. I may be a fujoshi but I still read shoujo. And bl mangas have a different dynamic to them compared to a straight manga as being gay isn’t normally accepted soo there’s a different kind of struggle for acceptance and love in bl that just isn’t the same in a straight romance. So yes people might find it boring, and the cover was also misleading soo someone could’ve gotten their hopes up. But bottom line is you were rude even if you didn’t mean to be (▰˘◡˘▰)

    z4tan December 20, 2020 1:03 pm
    Umm please don’t generalize all of us.. it’s quite rude to people like me that do not fetishize bxb relationships. I may be a fujoshi but I still read shoujo. And bl mangas have a different dynamic to them... Fangirlx

    I never said all fujoshis were like this anywhere so I don’t know where you got that from but calling a story with good plot “boring” simply because it’s not about a gay relationship is weird. I don’t care if I’m being rude because some fujoshis are straight up fetishizing mlm and it’s nasty. even if the cover was misleading the could have just read the tags and if it didn’t say it’s a bl then they could have moved on without having to hate on the story without even giving it a try just because it isn’t a bl.

    Potpot December 20, 2020 3:45 pm

    Most (not all ok) of the g/b stories show so much boobs and puss( i have those) and the focus is more on the girl lead so its kind of boring as time past when you read so many straight stories now i find BL have more heart stories some BL focus on stories not on the genre

    yasuha December 20, 2020 3:57 pm
    Umm please don’t generalize all of us.. it’s quite rude to people like me that do not fetishize bxb relationships. I may be a fujoshi but I still read shoujo. And bl mangas have a different dynamic to them... Fangirlx

    Most Yaoi I've read didn't have said struggle of acceptance. They had the same nonexistent plot like those smut-manga, it was just about the sex.
    This is alright since nobody is watching porn for the plot.

    If someone says the plot is boring because of the wrong gender, that person is more focused on the gender than the plot. Simple as that.

    VENUS December 20, 2020 5:08 pm
    Most (not all ok) of the g/b stories show so much boobs and puss( i have those) and the focus is more on the girl lead so its kind of boring as time past when you read so many straight stories now i find BL hav... Potpot

    If you’re looking at smut (genre), yeah and same goes for yaoi, you’re gonna get a bunch of cock and balls lmao. personally I’m not the biggest fan of smut I rarely read it and I prefer reading just romance so that’s not how it is at all. There are so many complex g/b stories that are a lot more romantic and heartful than even the most popular BLs on this site, and I’ve read most of them trust me, I like them too. but you’re looking at the wrong genre!

    Fangirlx December 21, 2020 12:04 am
    I never said all fujoshis were like this anywhere so I don’t know where you got that from but calling a story with good plot “boring” simply because it’s not about a gay relationship is weird. I don’t... z4tan

    If you weren’t trying to say all you should’ve said so because you didn’t say some so what was I to assume? It seemed like a generalized comment. And ma’am I never said that fetishizing bxb is good, I simply said don’t say we all do that, and someone actually added a yaoi tag so yes misleading.

    Fangirlx December 21, 2020 12:15 am
    Most Yaoi I've read didn't have said struggle of acceptance. They had the same nonexistent plot like those smut-manga, it was just about the sex.This is alright since nobody is watching porn for the plot.If som... yasuha

    Ma’am who said yaoi? Cause I sure did not. I said bxb which is not only yaoi.. so you’re wrong, cause shouen ai usually doesn’t have smut scenes. And also I was not siding with anyone when I said some people might find it boring. And it is very possible to find something boring when it’s not a type of story you would read even if others did not. When I read isekai people find it boring when they have a female lead even when the plot is good and so. And lol don’t talk about bxb like you know it calling it porn not knowing that bxb is not just yaoi makes me wanna laugh. bxb literally is boy x boy which is a relationship between a boy and a boy it does not translate to yaoi and bl does not translate to yaoi.

    Fangirlx December 21, 2020 12:17 am
    Most Yaoi I've read didn't have said struggle of acceptance. They had the same nonexistent plot like those smut-manga, it was just about the sex.This is alright since nobody is watching porn for the plot.If som... yasuha

    If you want I can recommend you some bl, cause you apparently haven’t read the fluffy cute ones before. (▰˘◡˘▰)

    destaneee December 21, 2020 5:20 pm
    it’s because the only reason they read bl Is for the mlm relationships and not because they actually care for the story at all. they are simply reading bl bc they fetishize mlm relationships which is nasty a... z4tan

    nothing but the truth!

    yasuha December 21, 2020 8:11 pm
    Ma’am who said yaoi? Cause I sure did not. I said bxb which is not only yaoi.. so you’re wrong, cause shouen ai usually doesn’t have smut scenes. And also I was not siding with anyone when I said some peo... Fangirlx

    I said yaoi
    After reading manga for more than 20 years I think I should know the difference between yaoi and shounen ai
    So I prefer the terms "yaoi" and "shounen ai", since "bxb" or "BL" are kinda too vague for me.

    I also didn't mean it in a negative way, that were simple observations.
    For me great characteres are more important than a great plot. So I understand it if someone doesn't like a manga because the MC is not to their liking.

    Fangirlx December 21, 2020 11:44 pm
    I said yaoi After reading manga for more than 20 years I think I should know the difference between yaoi and shounen ai So I prefer the terms "yaoi" and "shounen ai", since "bxb" or "BL" are kinda too vague for... yasuha

    Then I don’t understand what you were trying to achieve with replying? You said that yaoi doesn’t have plot but I never said anything about yaoi I talked about bl as a whole, meaning yes there is struggle for acceptance.

    Fangirlx December 21, 2020 11:46 pm
    I said yaoi After reading manga for more than 20 years I think I should know the difference between yaoi and shounen ai So I prefer the terms "yaoi" and "shounen ai", since "bxb" or "BL" are kinda too vague for... yasuha

    But if you weren’t trying to be negative I guess, I just really don’t understand what you were trying to convey ┑( ̄Д  ̄)┍

    thebae December 22, 2020 6:57 am

    i usually just drop when the girl is annoying, that goes for guys too, it’s just that they make girls stereotypical (im so kind and sweet uwu i would never hurt a fly unu ehehe let me just get bullied and wait to be saved by a man tee hee) it’s annoying. I don’t think this one will be like that though. Also i just hate romance with straight people in general because the male is usually rude?? like why lol

    WereDemonic December 22, 2020 7:09 am
    Then I don’t understand what you were trying to achieve with replying? You said that yaoi doesn’t have plot but I never said anything about yaoi I talked about bl as a whole, meaning yes there is struggle f... Fangirlx

    Excuse me, I think she just said she'd prefer to divide the BL you're talking about as whole bc it was vague to her, she just PREFER to USE the terms 'Yaoi' and 'Shounen ai'. Both genre also categories as BL.

    You also said she was wrong bc shounen ai doesn't have smut scene but I'm pretty sure all people know that shounen ai is also a BL?

    You just said you talk about BL AS WHOLE, right?

    What she meant is in BL, there is yaoi and shounen ai. Both are different but but basically the same boy x boy and she meant that yaoi focus on well basically sex(porn) and Shounen ai r not, they did not had sex scene(porn).

    If you read BL long enough, I'm sure you should understand what she meant by that, but why are you keep misunderstanding and lead things far away?

    Dont say that BL I'm talking about is not bxb you meant. Bc that is basically how you did to her.

    BOY X BOY(bxb) IS SAME AS BOYS LOVE(bl).

    YOU JUST DONT UNDERSTAND WHAT SHE'S TALKING ABOUT AND I THINK YOU SHOULD ASK IF YOU DONT UNDERSTAND INSTEAD OF MAKING USELESS STATEMENT LIKE YOU REALLY WANT TO ARGUE SO MUCH WITH PEOPLE.

    WereDemonic December 22, 2020 7:21 am
    I never said all fujoshis were like this anywhere so I don’t know where you got that from but calling a story with good plot “boring” simply because it’s not about a gay relationship is weird. I don’t... z4tan

    Before, You said 'they' so you basically refers to all Fujoshis. The next time you said just remember to use 'some' bc not all fujoshis like being slander like this(fetishizing mlm). Just in case you doesn’t want to argue with fujoshis that is. You doesn't care abt being rude to 'some of the fujoshi who fetishizing mlm', but what abt the the some other? You also doesn’t care?

    Fangirlx December 22, 2020 7:50 am
    Excuse me, I think she just said she'd prefer to divide the BL you're talking about as whole bc it was vague to her, she just PREFER to USE the terms 'Yaoi' and 'Shounen ai'. Both genre also categories as BL. Y... WereDemonic

    Ummm what are you talking about? Me and that person were having a conversation I wasn’t trying to be rude and neither were they. I simply said that I was talking about bl as a whole which is why I don’t understand why they are only talking about yaoi. I don’t need you to clear up for them because I rather understand it from the person themselves. Thank you, but no thank you.

    z4tan December 22, 2020 9:35 am
    Before, You said 'they' so you basically refers to all Fujoshis. The next time you said just remember to use 'some' bc not all fujoshis like being slander like this(fetishizing mlm). Just in case you doesn’t ... WereDemonic

    the original poster asked a question as to why the fujoshis under the comments were complaining about it not being a yaoi so I answered the question so I was specifically talking about them. if it didn’t apply to you there is no reason for you to be angry. why would I care about someone girl who call themselves fujoshis which means “rotten girl”so no I don’t care.

    yasuha December 22, 2020 8:54 pm

    Well, it kinda escalated ( ̄∇ ̄")

    So, it's like that:
    People are happily reading this manga and were disappointed of the whole manga, because one of the MCs has the "wrong" gender.
    After reading the argument "bxb is more interesting because of the struggle of acceptance" the first thing that came to my mind were yaoi, where nobody cares if two guys are having sex.
    I kinda forgot about shounen ai, maybe because I don't read it much.

    Although there are people who enjoy reading shounen ai without ulterior motives, there are others who ship every available guy with another guy, even real people like their classmates. It's like guys watching lesbian porn.
    Being seen as a sexual material can be bothersome, that's why some people have a bad opinion of fujoshis.

    I don't get it why girls call themselves fujoshis. I mean, how would they feel if some male classmates/friends call themselves "lesbianlover"?