This is getting tiring. They can't communicate with each other at all, I wonder how they stayed together for a decade.
Dismissing your partner's insecurities as nonsense without talking about it is what will bring ruin to your relationship. Like Mugyeong doesn't even care to listen to the reason why Yohan feels insecure or try to make him at ease. And I think Yohan's reaction is understandable. Being naive is one thing but why would he always readily put his senior first before Yohan? It's as if he has no respect for his partner. Yohan deserves better.
Yohan, needs reassurance.. i hope the uke understands.. i have seen a lot of people losing their self esteem because their partner doesn't understand and just turn the blame to them
Imo in a way that's actually a form of gaslighting, although maybe not intentional. In real life that kind of relationship would turn toxic really quick.
The author just added one toxic character after another lol. I continued reading since I'm too fond of the couple to stop but this is getting tiring.
This manga is really challenging how many third person can be added into one story. It's kinda tiring me. Like, there are many kinds of problem a relationship can have without a third person getting involved, you know.
Laughing at people hating on Eunyool lol. I've expected that much, and I wonder what they'll say when the next chapter and the ones after until the end are up. Maybe they'll disappear from the comment section, or still try to justify their hate. Well, let's see.
Ikr. It's just a fine and refreshing story and then I see some comments that this is toxic. Like whaaat?
Then someone compare it to her friend's bf that strangling her friend like Eunyool "indifference" is the same as a criminal that wants to kill his gf.
(But it really is or its just a kink? We don't know so lets forget about it)
Wtf lol
Damn almost all of my comment is lost lol. I want to say that the person who said it is like people who screamed pedo at adult-minor relationship, they don't even know what pedophile actually means. Like, try to truly understand the meaning of what you want to say before you do. And also the people who hate Eunyool, for me it just seems like they're trying to force their own definition of an ideal relationship to them, when the world doesn't have only one answer.
Trueeee. So true. It is not up to their STANDARD of a relationship and that is why they're so perplexed that this kind of relationship is one of the most ordinary relationship. I almost think they're sheltered or something to think that this kind of relationship for them is toxic.
Someone says they encountered "many" couples like this and didn't end up well because the other one like Wonwoo is fed up with their partners' "indifference". I said you haven't seen enough couples to say that.
They have a very HIGH standard. That what it is. Reality is far broader regarding to this and like I said to them which they just shrugged off. Not every relationship is similar, there are tons of weird, quirky, abnormal relationships out there that WORKS.
And I think they just really hate Eunyool, we can't do anything about it. Once a person hate someone even though they're good person they will still find a way to hate it.
And watch out someone will tell you, you're a pedo too just because you give it as an example.
Like what happened to me when I'm just explaining my side. They called me an abuser, a toxic person, an indifferent person just because I'm saying that Eunyool love Wonwoo in his own way and Wonwoo knows that. We don't have the right to judge if he really loves him or not. It's their own feelings. Period.
And I think they're the type of people who will say bad things about their friend's partner just because they heard about the bad things and don't even fully knows what happening is really then they are mostly the cost of some couple's break up. In tagalog, Sulsol. No. 1 cause of misunderstanding between couples.
I guess they're just people who can't see beyond the surface, even if the surface is transparent and only slightly blurred, because they're too caught up by their own self and never think of trying to find out what's inside. People like that only judge, and rarely try to understand. And again, I don't think people calling Eunyool and you indifferent truly understand what that word means lol.
Not only indifferent, I don't even think they understand what abuse and toxic mean lol
Facts.
A lot of people said Naoto is right, but for me they're both in the wrong. I think Hazuki's jealousy is still acceptable, although the way he expressed it is wrong. It's not like he got jealous at every interaction Naoto made with others, he only did when Naoto was alone with someone else without his knowledge. It's not like he's the controlling type that forbid Naoto to meet others. If I were Naoto, knowing that it happened before, I'd be understanding and try to be careful about it, and when I had no choice but to be in that kind of situation, I'll let my partner know. Like if I were in Naoto's situation, I'd wake up Hazuki so I won't be alone with Otoha. It's not me succumbing to him, but me understanding and accepting him, also caring for his feelings. If my partner can accept my flaws, why can't I accept his? It's not even hard to do. Jealousy is humane, as long as it's still acceptable and doesn't become toxic. And jealousy actually isn't always about trust, but about possessivenes. Even if you trust your partner fully, you can still get jealous, knowing you actually don't have the need to. Feelings are something we often unable to control. And if we force our partner not to, it's not like they'll suddenly stop being jealous, they'll just hide it, and hidden emotions can become a poison. So, if we want them to understand us and stop being jealous, we should also understand that it'd need a process and a lot of talking, not just forcing it on them like that.
I think having to notify your partner whenever your alone with someone else is controlling and toxic. Possessiveness too, and sure the partner can't just stop being jealous but the partner needs to learn that "you" can't always notify them when they are alone with someone or just forbid them from having private conversations with other people. They need to learn to control their emotions and come an understanding.
I agree with you but Even with having a partner now, Naoto is a grown man and not a child. He is allowed to be alone with someone be it a man or anyone else. I think no one is more aware of how things can go wrong than him. He is not a scared child anymore and the person who helped him become more open toward people is Hazuki. He worked so hard to be where he is now that seeing your lover not being able to fully trust you is painful especially when Hazuki’s outburst come from his own insecurities.
Well, of course we have to see the situation. If our meeting is business, there's no need to do that. But if our meeting is personal, well, then I don't mind sending him a short text in exchange of him not getting hurt. Like it's only take a few seconds fgs. Only on condition it's on my own will, without them asking me where I am everytime or asking me to report everywhere I go, now that's toxic. If they got angry over me meeting a business partner or even after I tell them about it, then that's also toxic. But well, everyone have their own view in life, and I won't force mine onto anyone.
Being jealous is a natural emotion but how you deal with it is what matters, he didn’t communicate properly his jealousy and how they should handle it (spending more time together after, text checkups, words of affirmations, etc) and that’s fine bc we know he’ll apologize later but having to notify your partner that you’re having a normal conversation with someone else when they’re not there is weird…… it’s extremely worrying and toxic your partner should have full autonomy over who they get to talk to. If you're (I mean Hazuki) that jealous to the point of hindering your partners other relationships you should reevaluate yourself and figure out how to effectively communicate your needs. Naoto did nothing wrong and for him to throw back in his face his natural incline to want to help others in the name of jealousy fuck him
Well like I said, jealousy isn't always about trust. Even if you fully trust someone, you can still get jealous. And if you want your partner to understand you and stop being jealous, you also have to understand that a process and a lot of talking will be needed. No one can change the moment they're told to. I also said that the way Hazuki expressed their jealousy is wrong, so I don't agree to him getting angry and insulting Naoto like that.
Well that's why I said the way he expressed his jealousy is wrong, I didn't justify any of that. I only talked about his jealousy, not how he express that emotion.
It’s a little over the top to let your partner know every single time you’d be alone with someone else I don’t really see how any of this would be Naoto’s fault Hazuki said something horrible and he needs to apologize that’s it like another person said this has been building up in Hazuki for a long time because he’s insecure and he blew up
Uh, I said I also don't agree on Hazuki's way of expressing his jealousy though. It's not Naoto's fault Hazuki said those awful things, it's all on him.
"A lot of people said Naoto is right, but for me they're both in the wrong."
The way the author can make this webtoon so deep and unserious at the same time lol. There's a lot of comedic spins yet they never broke the flow of the heavy plot, which is crazy genius.
for reaalll, amazing storytelling 10/10
When the future chapters post-flashback are posted here, especially chapter 66, I dare anyone say again that Eunyool doesn't deserve Wonwoo. I'll fight you.
I've been rehabilitated. First season I 100% could not with Eunyool.
Reminds me of the story when I slipped away from my house as a child because apparently I liked to wander around and was brought home by a stranger. Now that I think about it again I'm so lucky a nice person found me lol.