Don't forget though, how we always saw Endeavor through Shouto and even Natsuo's words. We were presented the Endeavor they knew.They only knew the Endeavor after Touya, Fumi was never so resentful of him because she knew he wasn't always like that. He most likely became such a hardass because he wanted for Natsuo and Shouto what Dabi couldn't have but became a dick through it. Their mom probably had her mental breakdown because she blamed Endeavor (and herself) for Dabi, and she saw the same shit happening with Shouto and couldn't handle it. I'm not saying Endeavor is not an unfeeling ass but y'all really gotta stop painting him as this abuser.
this ain't even about the story but did yall see that picture of the seme from Painter of the Night with his hair down?? LAWD
I....I....I want one. I want one in all sizes. Fuck it catch me in a month or two imma make this years flower princess
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First things first both Chiwoo and Jihyun are at fault. Yall can let yall moral conscious tell yall who's more at fault if yall work like that but they are still, in some degree, both to blame. First Jihyun should have never put his hands on Chiwoo. Let me just say this though, it may seem like justification for his actions but hear me out. Shit like this happens in literally all the fucking manga. In Shoujo, you stole the girl I wanted so I'm gonna hit you, in yaoi you have the nerve to flirt with someone in front of me while I'm in love with you I'm gonna hit you. I have the references. This shit happens in MANGA but for some reason it's a big problem when there is the prospect of a romantic relationship. It is toxic, yes but from both ends. Chiwoo blatantly admitted that he knew of Jihyun feelings but selfishly didn't want their relationship to change. That's mentally and emotionally abusive. So in retrospect someone with anger issues that is being led on and knows for however many years confronts you about it and you still deny it, hell I'd be fucking pissed. Jihyun is not crazy or unstable he's just a really anger person. So my point is both of them are shitty people so don't sit here and play blame game. Thank you for coming to my TED talk.
Chiwoo has to lead him on because Jihyun was crazy.
It wasn’t a good idea but that’s what he had to do, if he didn’t lead him on he would have been beaten up a lot earlier. “Jihyun isn’t crazy or unstable, he’s just a really anger person” Are you being serious?
You’re acting like attempted rape and psychologically & physically harming someone - Just because they don’t return your feelings (bearing in mind he had no choice but to lead him on) doesn’t make him unstable or crazy.
Ever heard of Stockholm syndrome? This situation is pretty similar - which is probably why Chiwoo lead him on.
And after surviving all that abuse, Chiwoo has every right to.
Okay first of all what? Stockholm Sydrome? You really want to use that one? Like that is so far blown it's not even funny. Stockholm Sydrome is when you develop feeling for your captor as a coping mechanism. Chiwoo seems to not want romantic feelings for Jihyun so that's already a bust. Chiwoo is not in anyway a hostage of Jihyun. Chiwoo literally said they have their time together as much as they have their time apart. Also they've know each other before Highschool so the constant reassurance of feeling was fairly new.
Technically that doesn't make him crazy or unstable that's makes him a desperate drunk with a fucked up sense of morality. It's just easier for people to think that when shit like that happens it's always being some crazy but people just have it in them to do shit like that. I literally had a disclaimer saying that I don't believe Jihyun is a good person but I also dont believe Chiwoo is a good person either.
1) I said that the situation is pretty similar, as he is in a way captured since he has no escape from this psycho’s overbearing feelings and because he comforts him AS IF he has feelings for him. Was that so hard for you to understand? He literally doesn’t know when psycho’ gonna combust and start throwin’ things.
2) You’re telling me that him being a desperate drunk with a messed up sense of morality doesn’t make him crazy and unstable? Then what does?
You’re acting like I’m being stupid when I say it’s similar to Stockholm’s syndrome because similar obviously means same...
Chiwoo would probably be distraught if this guy wound up dead even though he’s flipped out so many times.
I can’t believe that you’re even trying to defend this guy and say that they’re both bad people when Chiwoo isn’t even in the wrong. Sure he could tell him that he doesn’t like him because that’s the right thing to do, it’s not like he’s going to flip out or anything? Jihyun isn’t crazy or unstable or anything? Chiwoo is totally a bad person for leading psycho guy on...
Sus........You're contradicting yourself. Go back and reread cause Jihyun only flipped out on Chiwoo ONCE when he was DRUNK. Even when he felt neglected he snapped on someone else not Chiwoo. There is no similarities between this situation and stockholm syndrome. Why is it hard for you to understand that people can be violent without being crazy? Not everything has to be justified to YOUR understanding. All I'm saying is that Jihyun being a violent temperamental mess doesn't make him crazy. What makes him not constitute as crazy is the fact that this is regular behavior for him. That's just his personality, that's what you seem to be unable to grasp. And for you too think that Chiwoo is a good person for blatantly ignoring someone's feelings much less leading them on brings into question your morality. Cause what if he was doing the same shit to Teddy Bear dude? Constantly hanging out with him, holding hands and other relationship type shit only for him to never blatantly address his feelings when asked but continues to do the same shit? Fucked up right?
Don’t be an idiot.
“What makes him not constitute as crazy is the fact that this is regular behaviour for him.”
No, definition from Cambridge- 1. stupid or not reasonable : 2. mentally ill: 3. annoyed or angry
Of course people can be violent without being crazy. What makes him crazy is that he is being violent for no reason. His violence may be amplified through his friend ignoring his feeling but his friend had to ignore his feelings because if he said no, he would’ve flipped tables.
“That’s just his personality” Whether he is TRULY crazy or has serious anger issues, he comes off as crazy. Which is clearly why me and a lot of sane people would label him as being crazy.
He wouldn’t need to do the same things that he did to Jihyun to teddy bear dude. He’d certainly be less afraid to tell him no because he wouldn’t go after his life. If he did ignore his feelings, it certainly wouldn’t be because he was a bad person (although it’s a bad idea). It would be because he either isn’t ready for a relationship after nearly being raped or because he doesn’t want to break his heart.
What YOU don’t get is that Jihyun is a crap person and that Chiwoo isn’t.
What YOU don’t get is that reasonable people can make crap decisions out of fear.
What YOU don’t get is that attempted rape and breaking someone’s leg just because they like the person you like isn’t less serious than a definite crazy persons behaviour just because “ItS jUsT hIs PeRsOnAlItY”
Say that to Ted Bundy mate- I bet you some of those girls he raped tried to ignore his feelings aswell because they were scared.
“Go back and reread”?
Chiwoo was aware of Jihyun’s violence before he tried to rape him.
Obviously you don't know the difference between a debate and an arguement. Cause I wasn't trying to be mean, but I can get mean if i need to but I'm not. Me being this tolerable of your narrow minded view of the human psychosis was nice enough so imma stop this shit here. There you go, you can say you won little one.
Are you being serious, you started with the insults, up until your second comment, I was having a debate with you.
You clearly don’t know the difference between addressing someone in debate and insulting someone.
Also, you have absolutely no right to call me narrow minded when I have addressed your point of view multiple times.
You’re acting like a child lol.
“I wasn’t trying to be mean”.
Keep telling yourself that.
Sis....good sus....queen, I even went back and reread what I said, I didn't say nothing about your person or something along the lines of don't be stupid. Quote something that I said that was rude and I'll give you and apology but if you've been insulted by me say Stockholm Syndrome was far fetch then you go home and cry to ya momma bout it Cause I dont want to hear it. But babygirl, a debate is acknowledging some opinionated arguement and disproving such with facts in a respectful manner, what you've do so for reiterating the same shit and trying to shove your "facts" down my throat. You've not been using your listening ears, you've only been talking out of your ass. If you see this as childish behavior than so be it but I think I conducted this is quite a me like manner whether that be like an adult or childish. Xoxo gossip girl
“Not everything has to be justified to YOUR understanding”
“Sus, you’re contradicting yourself.Go back and reread”
“Why is it hard for you to understand that...”
And you generally being close minded.
I shouldn’t have said “don’t be an idiot” because that was way to direct for you.
Just don’t question my intelligence and suggest that I’m close minded with these subtle statements because that’s pretty insulting if you ask me.
Also, “I didn’t say nothing” just kind of made you contradict yourself.
Long story short you're just sensitive. It wouldn't hurt you if you had no doubt about it and see how I'm taking this as a joke. I couldn't careless about the comments you made, it's just if we're gonna call someone out about insults might as well be right about it. My bad if I don't reread what i type. At least what I put was by accident, you wrote that stupid shit down on purpose.
How is what I’m writing stupid when I can’t even understand the second part of your paragraph? Maybe this related to your ability to understand my points.
I’m not sensitive, you’re clearly the one who was hurt by what I said- you’re being a hypocrite, well done.
*relates
You’re so pressed that you reply 10 minutes after me-
Sweetheart, none of those statements would be considered insults. You're just soft. That's it deal with it. Don't try and act all smart love this is an argument over the internet, not a college essay. I'm not worried about grammar, punctuation, spelling much less subject verb agreement cause I don't care enough. At this point this is just amusing. You seem pressed because your trying to nit and pick things that shouldn't be a problem. Ever stopped to think I was already on the website when I got the notification. I can tell you're the type of person to wait 2 hours to reply to someone Cause you dont want to look eager. Let loose hun. I promise you that pole up your ass cannot be good for your health.
You’re being a hypocrite.
Pipe down or take the pipe, pick one- either way you’ll shut up
You haven’t addressed any of my points and use more fillers than an anime. Please - either address the issue or begone.
No more nitpicking and you've taken an aggressive tone? Sounds like I've won.
The only thing that you’ve won is the hypocrite award.
The argument has yet to be won.
Sus you are stubborn as hell. Just give up it my dude
Yall in these comments are weird, yall calling Reo trash and what not but when Kuzuya told the blond Reo raped him he made him apologize to the whole family , like for what?! The blonds a dick
Borh of them are fucking awful. Just because people talk about the one doing the rape more it doesn't mean the other is not... It's logical to talk about the bigger asshole more
I'm bringing it up because I have seen anyone comment on him being a dick just that they love the bottomxbottom relationship when that shit is toxic too
yea I remember seeing people complaining about it when that chapter was first updated. But yeah I thought that was messed up it got me so mad.
I hope he saws how awful it was of him to force him to do that in the futur but I honestly doubt it’s gonna happen